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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>
Cc: Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@atheros.com>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Srinivasa Duvvuri <Srinivasa.Duvvuri@atheros.com>,
	Matt Smith <Matt.Smith@atheros.com>,
	Bennyam Malavazi <Bennyam.Malavazi@atheros.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: Deny new BA agreements from being started during offchannel operation
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:56:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1286474179.20974.10.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=iW1T7w-9akkR=DNnrGg3XD5nO=8pJ7V2_PiL4@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:21 -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:

> > But then again, come to think of it, why are you doing this anyway?
> 
> The goal is to clean up a lot of stuff we forgot to cleanup for
> offchannel operation and in the end to help with multicast/broadcast
> data. This patch just addresses one of the cleanups. The timers kicked
> off when going off channel will not make sense, so best to just deny
> ADDBA when going offchannel.

But this won't actually help in that case -- this problem happens if try
to make a BA just before we go offchannel, and then the timer fires
while we're offchannel. It'll just *very* slightly alter the timing
required to hit it.

> > I'm not convinced of the whole idea, it's all racy. I'm starting to think
> > that this patch won't help anything since we'll still be racy and start
> > BA agreements just before we block,
> 
> Establishing the BA agreement is fine, we don't want to cancel
> existing BA agreements when going offchannel, we just want to prevent
> making the timers for new ADDBA requests from going stale
> unnecessarily.

See above though.

> > _and_ if we're a station and going off-channel we'll be going into powersave
> > which means we won't actually get the addBA frame until we return.
> 
> There's a race between trying to go offchannel, sending the nullfunc
> and switching channels. When the race hits the ADDBA timer will just
> go stale. If our goal is to go offchannel we should avoid the race by
> simply denying new ADDBA requests. I just noticed that we can't
> possible receive ADDBA requests when we are scanning though, since
> ieee80211_iface_work() already has a check and bail out for
> local->scanning, but note that local->scanning will not be checked
> when doing other offchannel work.
> 
> So perhaps there is another way we can deal with this for the
> non-scanning offchannel work case that might also take care of not
> handling other queued up management frames when offchannel.

I think we need to treat TX and RX BA differently.

For TX BA, the best idea would probably be to actually make it _use_ the
work infrastructure -- after we change that to not actually stop all the
things it's doing when the channel is the operating channel, or so.

johannes


      reply	other threads:[~2010-10-07 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-06 18:50 [PATCH] mac80211: Deny new BA agreements from being started during offchannel operation Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-10-06 18:55 ` Johannes Berg
2010-10-06 19:12   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-10-06 19:19     ` Johannes Berg
2010-10-06 20:48       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-10-07  7:18         ` Johannes Berg
2010-10-07 17:21           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-10-07 17:56             ` Johannes Berg [this message]

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