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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Eliad Peller <eliad@wizery.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/9] add WoW support
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:20:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1300807242.3746.47.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1299011804-13899-1-git-send-email-eliad@wizery.com>

In this third email, some thoughts about the internal APIs.

For the model 2) that I described, I think the current APIs as
implemented in this patchset are not effective. Remember that in this
model, there's no change to how the chip operates, it just continues
operating as before, while the host is suspended, and has no extra
wakeup conditions, just the regular interrupt.

Things are more complex in the more traditional model, mostly depending
on how we answer the questions I posed in my second email.

However, ultimately I think we should move away from the start/stop
model we've imposed right now. The model makes sense for the case where
the device is shut down, but I think it doesn't make sense at all for
the case where the device stays up, in whatever form.

Just looking at patch 4/9 in Eliad's series that I'm replying to, I
think that it's clear that there's no sense in trying to keep the
mac80211 logic for the wowlan suspend case.

I think what we should do instead is this:
 1) Add suspend/resume ops instead of going through stop/start and all
    the deconfiguration / reconfiguration (of course keep all the
    previous logic for drivers that don't implement suspend.)

 2) Implement more iterators / accessors to allow drivers to get access
    to more information. Some of that might not be necessary since at
    resume in some cases the device might just go and request a restart,
    but in other cases this might be necessary to simplify/avoid book-
    keeping in drivers.

Adding such APIs would allow drivers to be more in control of what
happens at suspend, which given the complexity of how this might work,
with configuring the driver etc.

Thoughts?

johannes


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-22 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-01 20:36 [RFC 0/9] add WoW support Eliad Peller
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 1/9] cfg80211: " Eliad Peller
2011-03-08 14:09   ` Johannes Berg
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 2/9] mac80211: add WoW param to suspend/resume functions Eliad Peller
2011-03-08 14:10   ` Johannes Berg
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 3/9] mac80211: add WoW param to .start/.stop callbacks Eliad Peller
2011-03-08 14:12   ` Johannes Berg
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 4/9] mac80211: don't remove/add interfaces when WoW is enabled Eliad Peller
2011-03-08 14:14   ` Johannes Berg
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 5/9] wl12xx_sdio: set interrupt as wake_up interrupt Eliad Peller
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 6/9] wl12xx_sdio: set MMC_PM_KEEP_POWER flag on suspend Eliad Peller
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 7/9] wl12xx: save wl->wow_enabled " Eliad Peller
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 8/9] wl12xx: prevent scheduling while suspending (WoW enabled) Eliad Peller
2011-03-01 20:36 ` [RFC 9/9] wl12xx_sdio: declare support for NL80211_WOW_TRIGGER_ANYTHING trigger Eliad Peller
2011-03-22 14:46 ` [RFC 0/9] add WoW support Johannes Berg
2011-03-22 15:13 ` Johannes Berg
2011-03-22 15:40   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2011-03-23  9:40   ` Eliad Peller
2011-03-23  9:51     ` Johannes Berg
2011-03-22 15:20 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2011-03-23  9:46   ` Eliad Peller

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