From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mail.perches.com ([173.55.12.10]:1782 "EHLO mail.perches.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932272Ab1ETQvX (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 May 2011 12:51:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Plan for ath6kl cleanup From: Joe Perches To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Greg KH , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Kalle Valo , linville@tuxdriver.com, devel@linuxdriverproject.org In-Reply-To: <20110520142934.GA20250@infradead.org> References: <4DD668F4.6090308@atheros.com> <20110520133600.GA10521@suse.de> <20110520142934.GA20250@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:51:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1305910281.4209.36.camel@Joe-Laptop> (sfid-20110520_185127_228870_31AF858A) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 10:29 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 06:36:00AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 04:13:24PM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: > > > We have been thinking about how to get ath6kl out from staging and get > > > it to a first class citizen under drivers/net/wireless. There's quite a > > > lot of work to do get ath6kl cleaned up and the prospect of doing all > > > that through the staging-next tree wasn't that exciting. We would be > > > sending hundreds of patches and it would take a long time to cleanup the > > > driver. And the disconnection from the wireless core development also > > > sounded very daunting (cfg80211 API changes etc.). > > > > This sounds like, "We don't like the kernel development model, it > > requires us to break everything up into small patches and show our work > > to everyone." > > It's not the kernel development mode, it's something that you try to > impose on staging users. Creating a more less new driver from a pig > pile of junk doesn't make sense minimized patches with micro-review. I tried it once on ath6kl. Ended up with ~300 patches and a very clean tree. http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/trivial-mods.git/shortlog/refs/heads/20110108_ath6kl The coordination with atheros and greg was balky.