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From: wwguy <wey-yi.w.guy@intel.com>
To: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Grumbach, Emmanuel" <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/60] iwlagn: introduce struct iwl-shared - known by all layers
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:04:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1313503443.6823.9.camel@wwguy-ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110816092610.GB6085@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 02:26 -0700, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 08:29:12AM -0700, Guy, Wey-Yi wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 08:12 -0700, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 07:10:22AM -0700, Guy, Wey-Yi wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 07:44 -0700, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 06:46:45AM -0700, Guy, Wey-Yi wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 07:21 -0700, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 06:13:39AM -0700, Guy, Wey-Yi wrote:
> > > > > > > > now we are working on separate iwlagn driver into two layers (upper and
> > > > > > > > lower), the lower layer contains both bus and transport sub-layer which
> > > > > > > > is hw dependent, and the upper layer should be bus/hw independent. by
> > > > > > > > doing so, the single driver can handle different bus and different core
> > > > > > > > architecture. Having the share data structure (priv->shrd->foo) between
> > > > > > > > two layers is for that reason (loosely couple).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You did not explained reason for introducing iwl_shared structure,
> > > > > > > actually you confirmed it is useless. You should simply share iwl_priv
> > > > > > > on any layer you have.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Stanislaw
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It is not true, I mean "boring" but not "useless", it does not make
> > > > > > sense share all the priv with lower layer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why? Even if there are some fields that you will use only on
> > > > > upper layer, it does not mean that pointer to priv structure
> > > > > could not be passed to lower layer.
> > > > > 
> > > > why, if we doing that, lower layer need to know how to reference the
> > > > priv which I don't believe it is a good design. I want to make the upper
> > > > and lower layer as loose as possible and it is flexible for new
> > > > architecture.
> > > 
> > > Providing more abstraction layers than needed is worse.
> > 
> > I don't really see any issues with it
> 
> It make driver more complex than it could be.
> 
> >  and I don't believe it will cause
> > problem if we do it right. by doing so, we will improve the flexibility.
> 
> It does not offer any more flexibility than sharing iwl_priv, it
> is actually less flexible.
> 
how so, different upper layer can have differ private structure, just
has to include shrd which is shared with lower layer


> > > > > > think about I also mention
> > > > > > different core architecture, that mean we can have different upper layer
> > > > > > which has different priv; but shrd is always common to all different
> > > > > > upper layer to share with lower layer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What different upper layer? Non mac80211, if so you should write
> > > > > separate driver for it.
> > > > 
> > > > not mac80211, it is still part of driver, but different upper layer
> > > > might/can contain different system flow. that is why I mention different
> > > > core architecture. now we are doing preparation work so you did not see
> > > > the new stuff yet.
> > > 
> > > Can we get opinion from Johannes about that, and eventually ACKs/NACKs
> > > for patches?
> > > 
> > 
> > it is pure iwlagn driver changes and not impact mac80211 at all.
> > Johannes already in the loop and he understand the changes.
> 
> I'm asking about Johannes opinion, not your opinion about his opinion :-)
> 
but I am not seeing any relation those patches related to mac80211

Wey


  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-16 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-13 17:37 [PATCH 00/60] update for 3.2 Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 01/60] iwlagn: Rename iwlcore prefix Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 02/60] iwlagn: remove out-dated comments Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 03/60] iwlagn: use iwl_get_debug_level instead of iwl_debug_level Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 04/60] iwlagn: introduce iwl-shared.h Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 05/60] iwlagn: introduce struct iwl-shared - known by all layers Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-15  8:10   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-15  8:43     ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-15 13:13       ` Guy, Wey-Yi
2011-08-15 14:21         ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-15 13:46           ` Guy, Wey-Yi
2011-08-15 14:44             ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-15 14:10               ` Guy, Wey-Yi
2011-08-15 15:12                 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-15 15:29                   ` Guy, Wey-Yi
2011-08-16  9:26                     ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-16 14:04                       ` wwguy [this message]
2011-08-16 15:12                         ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-16 16:23                           ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2011-08-17 15:16                             ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-17 20:36                               ` wwguy
2011-08-18  4:49                                 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2011-08-18 13:57                                   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 06/60] iwlagn: debug_level moves to struct iwl_shared Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 07/60] iwlagn: hw_params moves to iwl_shared Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 08/60] iwlagn: cmd_queue " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 09/60] iwlagn: workqueue " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 10/60] iwlagn: priv->status " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 11/60] iwlagn: priv->lock " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 12/60] iwlagn: priv->mutex " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 13/60] iwlagn: modify the debug macro to be usable by all the layers Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 14/60] iwlagn: add IWL_DEBUG_FW_ERRORS Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 15/60] iwlagn: priv->sta_lock moves to iwl_shared Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 16/60] iwlagn: bus layer chooses its transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 17/60] iwlagn: add comments to iwl_bus / iwl_trans Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 18/60] iwlagn: transport handler can register debugfs entries Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 19/60] iwlagn: iwl_rx_queue moves to the iwl_trans_pcie Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 20/60] iwlagn: move iwl_suspend / iwl_resume to the transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 21/60] iwlagn: move ISR related data to " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 22/60] iwlagn: move the NIC error flow to the " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:37 ` [PATCH 23/60] iwlagn: enable 11n aggregation without checking traffic load Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 24/60] iwlagn: support small form factor SKU of 6205 Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 25/60] iwlagn: more comments for bt channel inhibition Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 26/60] iwlagn: add comments to module parameters Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 27/60] iwlagn: move isr_statistics to transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 28/60] iwlagn: reclaim the packets in " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 29/60] iwlagn: move reclaim related functions Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 30/60] iwlagn: move scd_bc_tbls and scd_base_addr to iwl_trans_pcie Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 31/60] iwlagn: fix the check of IWLAGN_FIRST_AMPDU_QUEUE Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 33/60] iwlagn: move iwl_free_pages to iwl-shared.h Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 34/60] iwlagn: transport layer should receive iwl_trans Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 35/60] iwlagn: move hcmd_lock to transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 36/60] iwlagn: move dump_csr and dump_fh " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 37/60] iwlagn: remove references to priv from the " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 38/60] iwlagn: remove unused parameters from hw_params Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 39/60] iwlagn: iwl-dev.h doesn't include iwl-fh.h any more Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 40/60] iwlagn: move Keep Warm to transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 41/60] iwlagn: add missing includes Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 42/60] iwlagn: all function iwl-io.c receive iwl_bus Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 43/60] iwlagn: fix compile warnings when CONFIG_PM_SLEEP is not set Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 44/60] iwlagn: iwl-pci doesn't include iwl-dev any more Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 45/60] iwlagn: adding special "D" SKU for 2000 series Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 46/60] iwlagn: iwl_tid_data moves to iwl-shared Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 47/60] iwlagn: remove dereferences of priv from transport Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 48/60] iwlagn: stop the device before freeing it Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 49/60] iwlagn: upper layer stores iwl_rxon_context in skb's CB Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 50/60] iwlagn: set tx_fifo for ampdu in transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 51/60] iwlagn: upper layer uses slabs to allocate tx cmds Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 52/60] iwlagn: move the mapping ac to queue / fifo to transport Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 53/60] iwlagn: allocate resources for TX BA session in transport Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 54/60] iwlagn: move the check_empty logic to the transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 55/60] iwlagn: move the disable agg logic to " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 56/60] iwlagn: cosmetics in iwl-trans.h Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 57/60] iwlagn: move wait_for_tx_queue_empty to transport layer Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 58/60] iwlagn: move check_stuck_queue " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 59/60] iwlagn: move the stop / wake queue logic " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-13 17:38 ` [PATCH 60/60] iwlagn: move tx queues " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-24 18:29 ` [PATCH 00/60] update for 3.2 John W. Linville
2011-08-24 20:09   ` Guy, Wey-Yi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-26  6:10 [RESEND PATCH " Wey-Yi Guy
2011-08-26  6:10 ` [PATCH 05/60] iwlagn: introduce struct iwl-shared - known by all layers Wey-Yi Guy

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