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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: changing dev->needed_headroom/needed_tailroom?
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:24:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1377015897.13829.16.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130820092013.6ca909e2@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> (sfid-20130820_182019_441833_A12DE7FE)

On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 09:20 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

> All code must check for needed headroom first, and copy packet
> if space is not available. Since excess headroom is always safe,
> most devices just always use the same worst case headroom.
> 
> Even with your changes this will still be necessary since packets will
> be still in flight while features change.

I agree, it will always be necessary. I guess the question boils down to
whether/what N bytes headroom more or less actually make a difference.

The wireless stack currently sets needed_headroom to 34 or so I think,
but I will need to increase by 8 which was why I had this question to
start with. However, those 34 are an absolute worst case - in most cases
it's much less...

So I suppose the other question we should ask is will increasing from
~34 to ~42 make a significant different that it's worth thinking about
avoiding it in the common cases at all?

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-20 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-26 14:50 changing dev->needed_headroom/needed_tailroom? Johannes Berg
2013-08-02  8:55 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-08-02 13:11   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-08-05 14:00     ` Johannes Berg
2013-08-20 10:00       ` Florian Fainelli
2013-08-20 16:20         ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-08-20 16:24           ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2013-08-20 16:29             ` Stephen Hemminger

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