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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>
Cc: janusz.dziedzic@tieto.com, j@w1.fi, sunitb@qca.qualcomm.com,
	rsunki@qca.qualcomm.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/5] cfg80211: add regulatory quiescing support
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:44:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1384440286.13941.27.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131114141105.GB19070@garbanzo.do-not-panic.com> (sfid-20131114_150029_534220_D0403B29)

On Thu, 2013-11-14 at 06:11 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:22:18PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 19:12 +0100, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > This quiesces devices when appropriate to ensure that
> > > regulatory domain updates take effect and avoid having
> > > devices initiate radiation when they should not.
> > 
> > I'm not really sure this makes sense.
> > 
> > If we're staying connected, how can we be moving far enough to go
> > through regulatory domains to have totally different rules?
> 
> Don't think of what makes sense, think of the corner cases that
> could happen here, such as plugging in a card that disagrees
> with regulatory settings, and creates a conflict on DFS regions.
> One example might be someone plugging in a USB 802.11 card programmed
> for JP in say a FR 802.11 AP, assuming the AP had the USB 802.11
> driver. Another example may be if a user provides an input with
> say 'iw reg set JP' on a FR AP. In such cases we want to stop IR,
> even if the user was dumb, we'd be respecting the regulatory settings,
> as silly as they may be.

Think of the other way around, such as plugging in a stupid USB NIC just
to see if it works - and suddenly finding your 5 GHz connection broken
because that USB NIC said it really needed some stupid country with 2.4
only. I'm not convinced.

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-14 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-13 18:12 [RFC 0/5] cfg80211: regulatory quiescing and exporting DFS regions Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 18:12 ` [RFC 1/5] cfg80211: pass the wdev on the country IE regulatory hint Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 21:20   ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 14:05     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 14:02       ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 15:12         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 15:05           ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 15:21             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-15 16:28               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 18:12 ` [RFC 2/5] cfg80211: make cfg80211_leave_all() available outside of sysfs Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 18:12 ` [RFC 3/5] cfg80211: add regulatory quiescing support Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 21:22   ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 14:11     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 14:44       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2013-11-14 15:18         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-25 15:59           ` Johannes Berg
2014-01-24 23:35             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-01-24 23:37               ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-25 15:59           ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-13 18:12 ` [RFC 4/5] cfg80211: add DFS region capability support Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 21:28   ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 14:31     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 14:48       ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 15:33         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 15:29           ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 15:34             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 16:13               ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-11-15 12:05                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 18:12 ` [RFC 5/5] cfg80211: DFS check dfs_region before usage Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 21:29   ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 10:15     ` Janusz Dziedzic
2013-11-14 11:52       ` Janusz Dziedzic
2013-11-14 14:46         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-15  9:37           ` Janusz Dziedzic
2013-11-15 12:01             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 14:35       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-14 14:33     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 18:48 ` [RFC 0/5] cfg80211: regulatory quiescing and exporting DFS regions Johannes Berg
2013-11-13 18:57   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-11-13 19:12     ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-13 19:13     ` Johannes Berg
2013-11-14 14:49       ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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