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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question for mac80211 driver maintainers - RCU usage in drivers
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:51:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1386197511.7669.6.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3284918.YsYQbnYjhH@blech> (sfid-20131204_234714_914088_FAFC5473)

On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 23:47 +0100, Christian Lamparter wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:23:49 PM Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 23:16 +0100, Christian Lamparter wrote:
> > > > Is there any other driver that assumes it is safe to delete a station
> > > > pointer in the sta_state callback and not use synchronize_rcu()? From
> > > > looking at the code, I don't see any, but I can't really be sure that
> > > > everyone uses __rcu annotations correctly ... :)
> > 
> > > No, carl9170 doesn't use sta_state but it uses sta_remove. 
> > 
> > Yeah, I actually saw this. But I think you use it for aggregation
> > sessions only? And the code didn't look like it could still get to the
> > station pointer after it was removed with sta_remove() callback, but I
> > may be wrong.
> no, you are not wrong. The code gets its sta pointers either from 
> callback-parameters or via ieee80211_get_sta. [But would it even be
> possible to do it any other way? After all, this should crash "sooner
> or later" otherwise].

Yeah that's what I thought. Both of those are obviously fine. In iwlmvm,
we have something like this:

 struct ieee80211_sta __rcu *our_stations[16];

and then just set it to NULL (well, simplifying a bit) on sta_remove
(actually sta_state.)

This is safe because after sta_state/sta_remove, mac80211 still does
call_rcu() to really free the station, but it's kinda pointless. By
adding the callback I'd suggested before to set this to NULL before the
synchronize_net() in mac80211, I think we can get rid of the whole
call_rcu() stuff.

Anyway, right now my patch is breaking iwlmvm, I'll try to sort that out
tomorrow and then post patches.

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-04 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-04 21:30 question for mac80211 driver maintainers - RCU usage in drivers Johannes Berg
2013-12-04 22:16 ` Christian Lamparter
2013-12-04 22:23   ` Johannes Berg
2013-12-04 22:47     ` Christian Lamparter
2013-12-04 22:51       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2013-12-05 12:35 ` [PATCH 0/8] mac80211: speed up station cleanup/AP shutdown Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 1/8] mac80211: add pre-RCU-sync sta removal driver operation Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 2/8] iwlwifi: mvm: use pre-RCU-sync sta removal operation Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 3/8] mac80211: move 4-addr sta pointer clearing before synchronize_rcu() Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 4/8] mac80211: don't delay station destruction Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 5/8] mac80211: move synchronize_net() before sta key removal Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 6/8] mac80211: optimise synchronize_net() for sta_info_flush Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 7/8] mac80211: optimise mixed AP/VLAN station removal Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 12:35   ` [PATCH 8/8] mac80211: free all AP/VLAN keys at once Johannes Berg
2013-12-05 17:02   ` [PATCH 0/8] mac80211: speed up station cleanup/AP shutdown Christian Lamparter
2013-12-05 17:27     ` Johannes Berg
2013-12-16 10:30   ` Johannes Berg

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