From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: Linux Firmware Signing
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 20:05:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1441238736.4172.12.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150902184604.GB8051@wotan.suse.de>
On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 20:46 +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 11:35:05PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > OK great, I think that instead of passing the actual routine name we should
> > > instead pass an enum type for to the LSM, that'd be easier to parse and we'd
> > > then have each case well documented. Each LSM then could add its own
> > > documetnation for this and can switch on it. If we went with a name we'd have
> > > to to use something like __func__ and then parse that, its not clear if we need
> > > to get that specific.
> >
> > Agreed. IMA already defines an enumeration.
> >
> > /* IMA policy related functions */
> > enum ima_hooks { FILE_CHECK = 1, MMAP_CHECK, BPRM_CHECK, MODULE_CHECK,
> > FIRMWARE_CHECK, POLICY_CHECK, POST_SETATTR };
> >
>
> We want something that is not only useful for IMA but any other LSM,
> and FILE_CHECK seems very broad, not sure what BPRM_CHECK is even upon
> inspecting kernel code. Likewise for POST_SETATTR. POLICY_CHECK might
> be broad, perhaps its best we define then a generic set of enums to
> which IMA can map them to then and let it decide. This would ensure
> that the kernel defines each use caes for file inspection carefully,
> documents and defines them and if an LSM wants to bunch a set together
> it can do so easily with a switch statement to map set of generic
> file checks in kernel to a group it already handles.
The names are based on the calling security hook. For a description of
each of these security hooks refer to include/linux/lsm_hooks.h.
> For instance at least in the short term we'd try to unify:
>
> security_kernel_fw_from_file()
> security_kernel_module_from_file()
>
> to perhaps:
>
> security_kernel_from_file()
>
> As far, as far as I can tell, the only ones we'd be ready to start
> grouping immediately or with small amount of work rather soon:
>
> /**
> *
> * enum security_filecheck - known kernel security file checks types
> *
> * @__SECURITY_FILECHECK_UNSPEC: attribute 0 reserved
> * @SECURITY_FILECHECK_MODULE: the file being processed is a Linux kernel module
> * @SECURITY_FILECHECK_SYSDATA: the file being processed is either a firmware
> * file or a system data file read from /lib/firmware/* by firmware_class
> * @SECURITY_FILECHECK_KEXEC_KERNEL: the file being processed is a kernel file
> * used by kexec
> * @SECURITY_FILECHECK_KEXEC_INITRAMFS: the file being processed is an initramfs
> * used by kexec
>
> * The kernel reads files directly from the filesystem for a series of
> * operations. The list of files the kernel reads from the filesystem are
> * limited and each type of file consumed may have a different format and
> * security vetting procedures. The kernel enables LSMs to vet for these files
> * through a shared LSM hook prior to consumption. This list documents the
> * different special kernel file types read by the kernel, it enables LSMs
> * to vet for each differently if needed.
> enum security_filecheck {
> SECURITY_FILECHECK_UNSPEC,
> SECURITY_FILECHECK_MODULE,
> SECURITY_FILECHECK_SYSDATA,
> SECURITY_FILECHECK_KEXEC_KERNEL,
> SECURITY_FILECHECK_KEXEC_INITRAMFS,
> };
>
> Provided the MOK thing or alternative gets addressed we could also soon add
> something for SELinux policy files but that needs to be discussed further
> it seems. If MOK is used would SECURITY_FILECHECK_POLICY_MOK be OK? Again
> this would likely need further discussion, its why I didn't list it above.
Oh, I'm really confused as to why MOK would be a separate hook. I
thought the discussion was about using a key in the UEFI MOK DB for
verifying locally signed files.
Mimi
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2015-08-26 23:26 ` Linux Firmware Signing Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-27 2:35 ` Paul Moore
2015-08-27 19:36 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-27 23:46 ` Paul Moore
2015-08-27 10:38 ` David Howells
2015-08-27 10:57 ` David Woodhouse
2015-08-27 21:29 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-27 23:54 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-08-29 2:16 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-31 14:18 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-08-31 16:05 ` David Woodhouse
2015-08-31 16:45 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-09-02 0:00 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-01 23:43 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-02 3:08 ` Kees Cook
2015-09-02 3:44 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-09-02 15:28 ` Kees Cook
2015-09-02 16:45 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-09-02 17:36 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-02 23:54 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-09-03 0:18 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-27 23:56 ` Paul Moore
2015-08-28 11:20 ` Roberts, William C
2015-08-28 22:26 ` Paul Moore
2015-08-29 2:03 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-01 2:52 ` Paul Moore
2015-09-01 14:12 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-09-01 20:08 ` Roberts, William C
2015-09-01 20:46 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-09-01 22:21 ` Eric Paris
2015-08-29 1:56 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-01 20:20 ` Kees Cook
2015-09-02 0:09 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-02 3:35 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-09-02 18:46 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-02 20:54 ` Kees Cook
2015-09-02 21:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-03 21:14 ` Kees Cook
2015-09-30 20:34 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-03 0:05 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2015-09-03 0:29 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-03 3:00 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-08-27 19:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
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