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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: IgorMitsyanko <igor.mitsyanko.os@quantenna.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, btherthala@quantenna.com,
	hwang@quantenna.com, smaksimenko@quantenna.com,
	dlebed@quantenna.com, Igor Mitsyanko <imitsyanko@quantenna.com>,
	Kamlesh Rath <krath@quantenna.com>,
	Sergey Matyukevich <smatyukevich@quantenna.com>,
	Avinash Patil <avinashp@quantenna.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] qtn: add FullMAC firmware for Quantenna QSR10G wifi device
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:35:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1478864146.4129.4.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d1cfaf8a-55a6-3a7c-9e9d-ec810fe5b80d@quantenna.com>

Adding linux-firmware people to Cc, since presumably they don't
necessarily read linux-wireless...

> Johannes, from that perspective, who are the "redistributors"? 

> Specifically, is linux-firmware git repository considered a
> redistributor or its just hosting files? I mean, at what moment
> someone else other then Quantenna will start to be legally obliged to
> make GPL code used in firmware available for others?

Look, I don't know. I'd assume people who ship it, like any regular
distro, would be (re)distributors thereof. "Normal" (non-GPL) firmware
images come with a redistribution license, but that obviously can't
work here.

There's some info from Ben here regarding the carl9170 case:
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1605.3/01176.html

> Personally I still hope that linux-firmware itself is not legally 
> concerned with what is the content of firmware its hosting, but looks
> like there already was a precedent case  with carl9170 driver and
> we have to somehow deal with it.

That's really all I wanted to bring up. I'm not involved with the
linux-firmware git tree.

> There still may be a difference though: Quantenna is semiconductor 
> company only, software
> used on actual products based on Quantenna chipsets is released by
> other 
> companies.
> I just want to present our legal team with a clear case (and position
> of 
> Linux maintainers) so that they can
> work with it and make decision on how to proceed.
> 
>  From technical perspective, as I mentioned, SDK is quite huge and 
> include a lot of opensource
> components including full Linux, I don't think its reasonable to have
> it 
> inside linux-firmware tree.
> What are the options to share it other then providing it on request
> basis:
> - git repository
> - store tarball somewhere on official website

Clearly that wasn't deemed appropriate for carl9170, so I don't see why
it'd be different here.

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-11 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1478700000-11624-1-git-send-email-igor.mitsyanko.os@quantenna.com>
2016-11-09 14:00 ` [PATCH V3] qtnfmac: announcement of new FullMAC driver for Quantenna chipsets igor.mitsyanko.os
2016-11-14  9:52   ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]     ` <62102ba6-cae0-f00d-f989-3f2e9ea43d9b@quantenna.com>
2016-11-16 16:50       ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-17  8:51         ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-15  9:06   ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-16 16:47     ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-17  7:54       ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-09 15:56 ` [RFC] qtn: add FullMAC firmware for Quantenna QSR10G wifi device Johannes Berg
     [not found]   ` <2fcb5f28-808e-f296-7e91-e5185e7577c9@quantenna.com>
2016-11-09 21:05     ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-10 14:02       ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-11 11:35         ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2016-11-14  8:26           ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-14  9:40             ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-23 15:25             ` Kalle Valo
2016-11-23 16:45               ` igor.mitsyanko.os
2016-11-23 17:09               ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-24 11:59                 ` Kalle Valo
2016-11-25 10:16                   ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-12-23 15:12               ` igor.mitsyanko.os
2016-12-23 17:47                 ` Christian Lamparter
2016-11-22 14:44           ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-28 16:34             ` Kyle McMartin
2016-11-28 17:10               ` Oleksij Rempel
2016-11-28 17:33                 ` Oleksij Rempel
2016-11-28 19:01                   ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-29  3:49                     ` Oleksij Rempel
2016-11-29  9:10                       ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-29  9:34                         ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-11-29 10:22                           ` IgorMitsyanko
2016-11-28 22:07               ` IgorMitsyanko

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