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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Zaborowski <andrew.zaborowski@intel.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] cfg80211: NL80211_ATTR_SOCKET_OWNER support for CMD_CONNECT
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 16:14:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1480950886.31788.44.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5845824B.4090304@gmail.com> (sfid-20161205_160549_860372_16971AFA)

> > Well, no, that'd only work with an open connection :)

Actually, it also works fairly easily for when firmware has 4-way-
handshake offload, which will be coming to a kernel near you soon.

> And even that is questionable in my mind for some of the more
> advanced cases.

Well, at least in that case you can have things running (for a while)
if the manager crashes?

> But I'm not sure what your point is, do you still have objections to 
> this approach?

Well, first of all, you can keep things running, at least until you've
figured out how to restart wpa_supplicant/whatever.

There also aren't really any important resources to clear when
userspace dies, at least nothing that userspace can't trivially clear
later by disconnecting (even unconditionally and ignoring the
result)...

So basically I just don't see the advantage. It feels like trading a
single line of userspace code to disconnect with some (not super
complex, but still somewhat involved) kernel-side tracking. That
doesn't really seem like a worthwhile tradeoff to me.

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-05 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-02 20:56 [PATCH][RFC] cfg80211: NL80211_ATTR_SOCKET_OWNER support for CMD_CONNECT Andrew Zaborowski
2016-12-05 13:51 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-05 14:55   ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-05 14:58     ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-05 15:05       ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-05 15:14         ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2016-12-05 15:32           ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-06  7:16             ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-06 21:42               ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-07  1:40                 ` Andrew Zaborowski
2016-12-07  6:19                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-07  9:49                     ` Andrew Zaborowski
2016-12-07  6:15                 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-07  6:40                   ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-07  6:48                     ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-07  7:07                       ` Denis Kenzior
2016-12-07  7:38                         ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-05 15:40           ` Marcel Holtmann

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