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From: Stefano Brivio <stefano.brivio@polimi.it>
To: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
Cc: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	Marcus Glocker <mglocker@openbsd.org>,
	Jon Simola <jsimola@gmail.com>, Theo de Raadt <deraadt@theos.com>,
	Martin Langer <martin-langer@gmx.de>,
	Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@gentoo.org>,
	Andreas Jaggi <andreas.jaggi@waterwave.ch>,
	Larry Finger <larry.finger@lwfinger.net>,
	Quaker.Fang@sun.com, Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>,
	John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>, Greg kh <greg@kroah.com>,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	license-violation@gpl-violations.org
Subject: Re: OpenBSD bcw: Possible GPL license violation issues
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 03:40:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070405034058.5fba1a90@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704050112.l351C7Ev016627@cvs.openbsd.org>

[Please stop this. This doesn't lead anywhere. But as long as you need
answers, I'll try to provide you with them.]

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:12:06 -0600
Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org> wrote:

> > > Copyrighted whitespaces and variable names, you mean, right?
> > 
> > No.
> 
> What does that "No." mean.  Are you being obtuse?  I am quoting you:

[...]

> If whitespacing and variable names do not matter for the larger issue
> at hand, then I suggest you don't bring it up.  Why would you bring it
> up?  Because you want to accuse.  You don't want to see these issues
> solved in the right way (whatever that will be).  You want to accuse,
> by bringing up whitespace.  Why else would you bring up whitespace?

I don't want to accuse anybody. Please see the context. I was trying to
explain why I think bcw developers went public about this issue even
before we noticed about it, and this seems to imply direct copy. (But hey,
I'm not against direct copy, even! I just agree with Michael about this.)

> It should be obvious to anyone who actually goes and reads it, that
> the remainder Marcus' driver shows that he IS TRYING TO TAKE A GOOD
> FAITH APPROACH TOWARDS LICENSING.

I _think_ and hope this.

> Michael's initial overly public statemen did not dispute Marcus
> obviously tried to do the right thing, but your agressiveness DOES
> dispute it.  Your sentence:
> 
> > Not even trying to hide that.
> 
> Is exceedingly agressive.  If you have an agenda here, please make
> it clear.

I'm really sorry if this has been perceived as aggressive. I don't want to
be aggressive. See above, for the reason why I wrote this sentence.
 
> Right about now I think you (Stefano) don't understand that every word
> you say is leading certain people to abandon even trying to write an
> alternative Broadcom driver.

I can't really agree with this. I think you should at least explain why.

> And ... if what you really want is that another Broadcom driver does
> not come into existance, then just say so.  If that is your agenda,
> say so loud and clear, so that we can know.

My agenda:
https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2005-December/000816.html


--
Ciao
Stefano

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-05  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-04 20:08 OpenBSD bcw: Possible GPL license violation issues Michael Buesch
2007-04-04 21:39 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  0:18   ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05  0:29     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  0:52       ` Joseph Jezak
2007-04-05  1:56         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  2:07           ` Joseph Jezak
2007-04-05  2:10             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:03               ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:05                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:40                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:44                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:00                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:30                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:32                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:39                           ` Paul Marks
2007-04-05 18:41                             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:47                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:48                             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:09                               ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:13                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:20                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 19:13                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:25                                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:29                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:45                                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:46                                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:35                                     ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 19:31                               ` Pavel Roskin
2007-04-05 19:37                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:57                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-04-05 20:10                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:19                                       ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 21:25                                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:36                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 21:39                                             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 22:46                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 23:23                                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:34                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 23:34                                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:46                                                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 23:51                                                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  0:00                                                           ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-06  0:02                                                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 22:59                                               ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-05 23:28                                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  9:04                                                   ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-06  9:14                                                     ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-06 10:53                                                       ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-05 22:03                                           ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 21:23                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  0:19                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  5:12                                   ` Pavel Roskin
2007-04-05  0:59       ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05  1:12         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  1:40           ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2007-04-05 16:41       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 16:42         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 16:57   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:00     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:35       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:40         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:54       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:21         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 20:26           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:28             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 20:39               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:56                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:21                   ` David Miller
2007-04-05 23:21                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:23                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:26                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 21:33                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:49                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 21:52                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 21:53                   ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-08 11:21   ` Pieter Hulshoff
2007-04-04 22:22 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-04 22:35   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 16:59   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05  5:41 ` Marcus Glocker
2007-04-05 16:34   ` Marcus Glocker
2007-04-05 16:36     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:31     ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:36       ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 16:47   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 16:48     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:14       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:25         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:53           ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:54             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:28             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:40               ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:42                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:08                   ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 17:29         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:10         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-07  8:12   ` Joerg Mayer
2007-04-08  0:04 ` Pieter Hulshoff
2007-04-08 13:27 ` Reyk Floeter
2007-04-08 13:50   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-08 18:29     ` Reyk Floeter
2007-04-08 17:06   ` Pavel Roskin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-12  9:28 nihil

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