From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
Marcus Glocker <mglocker@openbsd.org>,
Jon Simola <jsimola@gmail.com>, Theo de Raadt <deraadt@theos.com>,
Stefano Brivio <stefano.brivio@polimi.it>,
Martin Langer <martin-langer@gmx.de>,
Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@gentoo.org>,
Andreas Jaggi <andreas.jaggi@waterwave.ch>,
Larry Finger <larry.finger@lwfinger.net>,
Quaker.Fang@sun.com, Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>,
John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>, Greg kh <greg@kroah.com>,
bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
license-violation@gpl-violations.org
Subject: Re: OpenBSD bcw: Possible GPL license violation issues
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 23:26:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704052326.23288.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704052056.l35KuTIr025210@cvs.openbsd.org>
On Thursday 05 April 2007 22:56, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> It makes me happy to show that I have empathy for a situation where
> someone who puts hundreds of hours of work in as a hobby, and to
> defend that person. It makes me extremely unhappy that I have to do
> so, and that some other people think this is a non-event.
We put THOUSANDS of hours of work into bcm43xx and you
simply relicense it without permission. Your point being?
> > > <rest deleted, because the above line is so important>
> >
> > Snipped? I presume, then, you admit you are misrepresenting others'
> > opinions in this thread.
>
> No, there was a side discussion about whitespace and variable naming,
> and even algorithms covered by the GPL. Gimme a break. These were
> essentially claimed by some of the examples shown by Michael. Go look
> carefully.
You simply don't get it. These were EXAMPLES of why we think the
code was copied 1:1. This has NOTHING to do with copyright law
at this point. It simply shows: "Oh look, you named that variable
or that function exactly like I did, although the specs did not
suggest naming. Unlikely to be so by coincidence."
> That said, there were more real issues, and those have been dealt with
> in a reply from Marcus, plus the driver now being deleted.
I want to point out again that I _never_ made it a requirement
to delete the driver. I offered ways to handle it by going through
the code and judging on a case-by-case base of what can stay and
what has to be rewritten by you.
> The Italian dude in particular was complaining bitterly in private
> mail about the whitespace similarities... good grief, not whitespace
> similarities. How SCO of him.
Yeah. Must be coincidence that you typed whitespace exactly like
we did. I'm sure this didn't come from copying, but from coincidence.
[Irony may be found in the mail above]
--
Greetings Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-05 21:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-04 20:08 OpenBSD bcw: Possible GPL license violation issues Michael Buesch
2007-04-04 21:39 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 0:18 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 0:29 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 0:52 ` Joseph Jezak
2007-04-05 1:56 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 2:07 ` Joseph Jezak
2007-04-05 2:10 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:03 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:05 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:40 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:44 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:00 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:30 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:32 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:39 ` Paul Marks
2007-04-05 18:41 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:47 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:48 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:09 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:13 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 19:13 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:25 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:29 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:45 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:46 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:35 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 19:31 ` Pavel Roskin
2007-04-05 19:37 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:57 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-04-05 20:10 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:19 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 21:25 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:36 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 21:39 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 22:46 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 23:23 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:34 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 23:34 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:46 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 23:51 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06 0:00 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-06 0:02 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 22:59 ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-05 23:28 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06 9:04 ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-06 9:14 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-06 10:53 ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-05 22:03 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 21:23 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06 0:19 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06 5:12 ` Pavel Roskin
2007-04-05 0:59 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 1:12 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 1:40 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 16:41 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 16:42 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 16:57 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:00 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:35 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:40 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:21 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 20:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:28 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 20:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:56 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:21 ` David Miller
2007-04-05 23:21 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:23 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:26 ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2007-04-05 21:33 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:49 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 21:52 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 21:53 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-08 11:21 ` Pieter Hulshoff
2007-04-04 22:22 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-04 22:35 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 16:59 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 5:41 ` Marcus Glocker
2007-04-05 16:34 ` Marcus Glocker
2007-04-05 16:36 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:31 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:36 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 16:47 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 16:48 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:14 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:25 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:53 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:54 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:28 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:40 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:42 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:08 ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 17:29 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:10 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-07 8:12 ` Joerg Mayer
2007-04-08 0:04 ` Pieter Hulshoff
2007-04-08 13:27 ` Reyk Floeter
2007-04-08 13:50 ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-08 18:29 ` Reyk Floeter
2007-04-08 17:06 ` Pavel Roskin
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2007-04-12 9:28 nihil
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