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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	johannes@sipsolutions.net, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	dcbw@redhat.com, hs4233@mail.mn-solutions.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, marcelo@kvack.org
Subject: Re: libertas (private) ioctls vs. nl80211
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:46:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070617044636.GL11166@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070614200844.GC28917@tuxdriver.com>

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:08:44PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:56:18PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:09:36 -0400
> > "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > It does not make sense to me to rip this out purely for aesthetic
> > > reasons.
> > 
> > Aesthetics are good, but that's not the main issue.
> > 
> > What is most worrying is that there appears to be a risk that these
> > newly-added interfaces will later become obsoleted by another interface. 
> > This means that we'll need to maintain, test and support _both_ interfaces
> > for a very long time.  This is the sort of foot-shooting we should avoid.
> 
> True enough.  However, I hope you will agree that we should not
> confuse foresight with speculation.
> 
> At present there is no sign on the horizon of either any mac80211
> mesh code or any other full-MAC wireless driver supporting mesh.
> Without either of those, it would seem imprudent to rush toward
> a gneric configuration interface even if nl80211 was prepared to
> sprout one.

Making it generic may be premature optimization.

But at the very least, we should deal with the three other problems
Christoph has pointed out: subfunctions, pointer indirections, and
32on64 cleanliness.

That last one may come back to bite you in a couple years' time, if not
other people. It's a major pain in the ass.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-17  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-13 17:58 libertas (private) ioctls vs. nl80211 Johannes Berg
2007-06-14 17:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-14 17:38   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14 18:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-14 18:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-14 18:48         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-14 22:22           ` Dan Williams
2007-06-14 22:31             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-14 22:55               ` Dan Williams
2007-06-14 19:09         ` John W. Linville
2007-06-14 19:56           ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14 20:08             ` John W. Linville
2007-06-17  4:46               ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-07-06 15:40           ` Javier Cardona
2007-07-06 16:08             ` Dan Williams
2007-07-10 14:56               ` John W. Linville
2007-07-10 15:18                 ` John W. Linville
2007-06-18 17:38       ` Dan Williams
2007-06-18 18:44         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-18 18:57           ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-14 20:03   ` Holger Schurig
2007-06-14 22:48     ` Dan Williams
2007-06-15 18:42 ` Dan Williams

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