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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:29:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070901222901.GO9260@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46D9E1B8.2060300@errno.com>

On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 03:03:36PM -0700, Sam Leffler wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
>>   
>>> On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> This will hopefully help diminish certain myths about the code 
>>>>> licensing.
>>>>>         
>>>> What myth?  The myth that Theo understands dual licensing?
>>>>       
>>> Reyk's code was never dual licensed, so it's not like it even matters
>>> to the original dispute.
>>>     
>>
>> It's no longer dual licenced in the FreeBSD tree because the FreeBSD 
>> people removed the GPL choice of the dual licenced code 3 months ago.
>>
>> So all of Theo's accusations of people breaking the law by making this 
>> dual licenced code GPL-only apply as well to the FreeBSD people...
>>   
>
> Sigh, why actually check the facts when you can make them up.   The code in 
> question is my code.  It has my copyright (modulo bits shared with onoe-san 
> who was consulted on the switch from dual-bsd/gpl to bsd only in freebsd).  

The latter is the code by Video54 Technologies?

> Of course what was amusing was how after I changed the license on the 
> current code in freebsd certain folks retroactively applied the license 
> changes to code that was 3 years old.
>
> But is there a point to all this nonsense?  I dual-licensed the code so 
> folks could adopt and use it however they saw fit.  As I've said before I 
> don't care what people do with the work I give away so long as they don't 
> claim it's their own.

Fully agreed.  :-)

>>> That said, I don't see what exact wording you consider inaccurate.
>>>     
>>
>> Both the FreeBSD and Linux people draw the logical conclusion that this 
>> "Alternatively" means everyone can always choose to remove one of the two 
>> choices alternatively offered.
>>
>> According to Theo, that is "breaking the law"...
>
> I've yet to see "FreeBSD people" speak up so again you're just spouting 
> jibberish.  I am speaking up as the author of the code that set the dual 
> license in place.  I have the definitive say and I have said that any of my 
> code that is dual-licensed can be made gpl only.

Sorry, this has been a thinko on my side:

If noone except you and onoe-san made any contributions to this code 
that were non-trivial enough for automatically giving its author a 
copyright on his contributions (whatever this means in various 
jurisdictions...) it was indeed an author-only change.

>    Sam

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-01 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200709010140.l811eq9H005896@cvs.openbsd.org>
2007-09-01 16:48 ` Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 17:21   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-01 17:37     ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 20:54       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:16         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:51           ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 22:06             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:27         ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 21:52           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 23:29             ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 23:48               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-02  0:11                 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  0:09               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  0:53                 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 10:36                   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 11:20                     ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 11:50                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02 12:28                         ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 12:36                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 12:46                           ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:00                             ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 13:12                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02 13:53                               ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:57                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-02 14:11                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 15:58                                   ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 18:23                                     ` Matthew Jacob
2007-09-02 18:21                               ` Al Viro
2007-09-02 12:36                       ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02  0:36             ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-02  1:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:39                 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  1:42                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-02  1:53                     ` Al Viro
2007-09-02  1:43                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:58                   ` Casey Dahlin
2007-09-02  2:06                     ` Al Viro
2007-09-02  2:44                     ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-02  1:55               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  3:47                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-02  5:09                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  5:46                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-02  2:22               ` Jonathan Gray
2007-09-02 10:18                 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 22:03         ` Fwd: " Sam Leffler
2007-09-01 22:29           ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-09-01 20:30   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 20:57     ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-02  0:02 Bob Beck
2007-09-02  0:36 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-09-02  1:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  1:52   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  2:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 11:40   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-02  1:32 ` Adrian Bunk
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2007-09-02 14:47                 ` Bodo Eggert

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