* ath5k and network manager @ 2007-09-20 4:40 Stephen Hemminger 2007-09-20 12:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez 2007-09-20 15:51 ` Dan Williams 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-20 4:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Luis R. Rodriguez; +Cc: linux-wireless Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. -- Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 4:40 ath5k and network manager Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-20 12:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez 2007-09-20 13:11 ` Michael Buesch 2007-09-20 15:51 ` Dan Williams 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2007-09-20 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Hemminger; +Cc: linux-wireless, Jiri Slaby On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? ieee80211_register_hw(): /* add one default STA interface */ result = ieee80211_if_add(local->mdev, "wlan%d", NULL, IEEE80211_IF_TYPE_STA); Luis ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 12:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2007-09-20 13:11 ` Michael Buesch 2007-09-20 15:30 ` Stephen Hemminger 2007-09-20 15:50 ` Faidon Liambotis 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Michael Buesch @ 2007-09-20 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Luis R. Rodriguez; +Cc: Stephen Hemminger, linux-wireless, Jiri Slaby On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > > it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > > name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. > > I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with > any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > ieee80211_register_hw(): > > /* add one default STA interface */ > result = ieee80211_if_add(local->mdev, "wlan%d", NULL, > IEEE80211_IF_TYPE_STA); > Probably udev renames it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 13:11 ` Michael Buesch @ 2007-09-20 15:30 ` Stephen Hemminger 2007-09-20 15:34 ` Luis R. Rodriguez 2007-09-20 15:50 ` Faidon Liambotis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-20 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Buesch; +Cc: Luis R. Rodriguez, linux-wireless, Jiri Slaby On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:11:23 +0200 Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote: > On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > > > it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > > > name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. > > > > I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with > > any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > > > ieee80211_register_hw(): > > > > /* add one default STA interface */ > > result = ieee80211_if_add(local->mdev, "wlan%d", NULL, > > IEEE80211_IF_TYPE_STA); > > > > > Probably udev renames it. It was udev, don't know why Ubuntu was adding a rule for it (and getting wrong) value. -- Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 15:30 ` Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-20 15:34 ` Luis R. Rodriguez 2007-09-20 15:35 ` Stephen Hemminger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2007-09-20 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Hemminger; +Cc: Michael Buesch, linux-wireless, Jiri Slaby, Tim Gardner On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:11:23 +0200 > Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > > Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > > > > it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > > > > name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. > > > > > > I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with > > > any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > > > > > ieee80211_register_hw(): > > > > > > /* add one default STA interface */ > > > result = ieee80211_if_add(local->mdev, "wlan%d", NULL, > > > IEEE80211_IF_TYPE_STA); > > > > > > > > > Probably udev renames it. > > It was udev, don't know why Ubuntu was adding a rule for it (and getting wrong) > value. > CC' TIm Was it a rule by PCI ID? If so then perhaps its based on the old madwifi rules of sticking to ath%d notation as well. This can be removed for ath5k but not too sure how this works. Luis ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 15:34 ` Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2007-09-20 15:35 ` Stephen Hemminger 2007-09-20 15:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-20 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Luis R. Rodriguez; +Cc: Michael Buesch, linux-wireless, Jiri Slaby, Tim Gardner On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:34:29 -0400 "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:11:23 +0200 > > Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > > > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > > > Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > > > > > it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > > > > > name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. > > > > > > > > I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with > > > > any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > > > > > > > ieee80211_register_hw(): > > > > > > > > /* add one default STA interface */ > > > > result = ieee80211_if_add(local->mdev, "wlan%d", NULL, > > > > IEEE80211_IF_TYPE_STA); > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably udev renames it. > > > > It was udev, don't know why Ubuntu was adding a rule for it (and getting wrong) > > value. > > > > CC' TIm > > Was it a rule by PCI ID? If so then perhaps its based on the old > madwifi rules of sticking to ath%d notation as well. This can be > removed for ath5k but not too sure how this works. > It was by PCI ID -- Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 15:35 ` Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-20 15:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez 2007-09-20 15:42 ` Tim Gardner 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2007-09-20 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Hemminger; +Cc: Michael Buesch, linux-wireless, Jiri Slaby, Tim Gardner On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:34:29 -0400 > "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:11:23 +0200 > > > Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > > > > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > > > > > > it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > > > > > > name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with > > > > > any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > > > > > > > > > ieee80211_register_hw(): > > > > > > > > > > /* add one default STA interface */ > > > > > result = ieee80211_if_add(local->mdev, "wlan%d", NULL, > > > > > IEEE80211_IF_TYPE_STA); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably udev renames it. > > > > > > It was udev, don't know why Ubuntu was adding a rule for it (and getting wrong) > > > value. > > > > > > > CC' TIm > > > > Was it a rule by PCI ID? If so then perhaps its based on the old > > madwifi rules of sticking to ath%d notation as well. This can be > > removed for ath5k but not too sure how this works. > > > > It was by PCI ID Then I guess that rule should be removed from udev because of ath5k, if we let the driver pick the name then we'd get ath%d for madwifi driver and wlan%d for ath5k. Would help with troubleshooting too. Tim? :-) Luis ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 15:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2007-09-20 15:42 ` Tim Gardner 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Tim Gardner @ 2007-09-20 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Luis R. Rodriguez Cc: Stephen Hemminger, Michael Buesch, linux-wireless, Jiri Slaby Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:34:29 -0400 >> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:11:23 +0200 >>>> Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: >>>>>> On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because >>>>>>> it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using >>>>>>> name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. >>>>>> I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with >>>>>> any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? >>>>>> >>>>>> ieee80211_register_hw(): >>>>>> >>>>>> /* add one default STA interface */ >>>>>> result = ieee80211_if_add(local->mdev, "wlan%d", NULL, >>>>>> IEEE80211_IF_TYPE_STA); >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Probably udev renames it. >>>> It was udev, don't know why Ubuntu was adding a rule for it (and getting wrong) >>>> value. >>>> >>> CC' TIm >>> >>> Was it a rule by PCI ID? If so then perhaps its based on the old >>> madwifi rules of sticking to ath%d notation as well. This can be >>> removed for ath5k but not too sure how this works. >>> >> It was by PCI ID > > Then I guess that rule should be removed from udev because of ath5k, > if we let the driver pick the name then we'd get ath%d for madwifi > driver and wlan%d for ath5k. Would help with troubleshooting too. Tim? > :-) > > Luis Keeping the names unique makes sense to me, especially in the case where both drivers are present in the distro, as will likely be the case until ath5k fully matures. I'll research the udev rule... rtg -- Tim Gardner tim.gardner@ubuntu.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 13:11 ` Michael Buesch 2007-09-20 15:30 ` Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-20 15:50 ` Faidon Liambotis 2007-09-25 18:27 ` Dan Williams 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Faidon Liambotis @ 2007-09-20 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-wireless; +Cc: networkmanager-list [CCing networkmanager mailing list] Michael Buesch wrote: > On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: >> On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote: >>> Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because >>> it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using >>> name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. >> I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with >> any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > Probably udev renames it. IMHO, NetworkManager should cope with whatever name is assigned to a device. AFAIK, device names are only "suggestions" by the drivers; the user may rename the device name (either by "ip link set name", with ifrename or with udev rules) to his liking, e.g. home. Granted, seems a bit of an overkill to rename a device on a machine where NetworkManager is in charge of the device but still, there is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed. Regards, Faidon ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 15:50 ` Faidon Liambotis @ 2007-09-25 18:27 ` Dan Williams 2007-09-25 19:03 ` Stephen Hemminger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Dan Williams @ 2007-09-25 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Faidon Liambotis; +Cc: linux-wireless, networkmanager-list On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 18:50 +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > [CCing networkmanager mailing list] > Michael Buesch wrote: > > On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > >> On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >>> Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > >>> it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > >>> name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. > >> I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with > >> any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > > > Probably udev renames it. > IMHO, NetworkManager should cope with whatever name is assigned to a device. > AFAIK, device names are only "suggestions" by the drivers; the user may > rename the device name (either by "ip link set name", with ifrename or > with udev rules) to his liking, e.g. home. 0.7 svn trunk uses device indexes internally already. > Granted, seems a bit of an overkill to rename a device on a machine > where NetworkManager is in charge of the device but still, there is no > reason why it shouldn't be allowed. No reason why you shouldn't be able to do this with NM. Dan > Regards, > Faidon > _______________________________________________ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-25 18:27 ` Dan Williams @ 2007-09-25 19:03 ` Stephen Hemminger 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2007-09-25 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Williams; +Cc: Faidon Liambotis, linux-wireless, networkmanager-list On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:27:44 -0400 Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 18:50 +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > > [CCing networkmanager mailing list] > > Michael Buesch wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 September 2007, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > >> On 9/20/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >>> Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > > >>> it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > > >>> name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. > > >> I couldn't agree anymore. But my ath5k kicks out a wlan%d name as with > > >> any other mac80211 driver. Is yours coming out to ath%d ? > > > > > > Probably udev renames it. > > IMHO, NetworkManager should cope with whatever name is assigned to a device. > > AFAIK, device names are only "suggestions" by the drivers; the user may > > rename the device name (either by "ip link set name", with ifrename or > > with udev rules) to his liking, e.g. home. > > 0.7 svn trunk uses device indexes internally already. > > > Granted, seems a bit of an overkill to rename a device on a machine > > where NetworkManager is in charge of the device but still, there is no > > reason why it shouldn't be allowed. > > No reason why you shouldn't be able to do this with NM. > > Dan > Actually, NM sees the card. The problem is that scanning appears to be broken. It seems to be related to the card type (PCI-E). -- Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ath5k and network manager 2007-09-20 4:40 ath5k and network manager Stephen Hemminger 2007-09-20 12:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2007-09-20 15:51 ` Dan Williams 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Dan Williams @ 2007-09-20 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Hemminger; +Cc: Luis R. Rodriguez, linux-wireless On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 21:40 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > Network manager doesn't seem to detect ath5k. Perhaps it is because > it is name "ath0". I think device should follow the convention of using > name "wifi0" rather than BSD convention of putting driver name in device name. NM shouldn't care what the device name is as long as the device has the right tags in HAL and as long as the device doesn't get renamed underneath NM (0.7 svn already uses device indexes internally instead). Dan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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