From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Inaky Perez-Gonzalez <inaky@linux.intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.24-rc7
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:46:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080125214626.GG14687@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801252221.07558.mb@bu3sch.de>
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 10:21:07PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2008 22:11:44 Inaky Perez-Gonzalez wrote:
> > On Friday 25 January 2008, Michael Buesch wrote:
> > > On Friday 25 January 2008 19:34:46 Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > My attitude is: CPU's that do unaligned accesses right are the *good*
> > > > CPU's. We should encourage them, and put the onus of being crap on the
> > > > ones that are crap, rather than penalizing the ones that aren't.
> > >
> > > I absolutely agree. But as this can get fixed with _no_ performance loss
> > > at all inside of the firmware (and who if not intel can change stuff
> > > in their firmware?), I think this warning is in fact valid.
> >
> > Well, you forgot the point that maybe it is not that simple to get such
> > a seemingly simple change into the firmware for a long list of reasons.
>
> The reasons being?
Firmware certification is expensive.
Plus it is a bit unfair to ask for firmware changes just because the
vendor is actually engaged with us. If this were Broadcom or Zydas
firmware we would have little recourse other than to accept it or
fix it in the driver or stack.
John
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John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801061410290.3148@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008-01-07 16:14 ` Linux 2.6.24-rc7 Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-07 16:24 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-07 16:52 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-07 17:30 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-07 20:23 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-08 15:30 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-08 15:55 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-24 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-24 21:07 ` John W. Linville
2008-01-24 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 12:29 ` Johannes Berg
2008-01-25 16:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 16:23 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-25 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 17:27 ` Dan Williams
2008-01-25 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 17:42 ` Dan Williams
2008-02-05 20:55 ` Russell S. Senior
2008-01-25 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 18:30 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-25 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 19:34 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-25 19:48 ` John W. Linville
2008-01-25 19:50 ` John W. Linville
2008-01-25 21:18 ` John W. Linville
2008-01-25 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 22:46 ` John W. Linville
2008-01-25 23:20 ` Guy Cohen
2008-01-26 13:53 ` David Miller
2008-01-26 13:47 ` David Miller
2008-01-25 22:02 ` Guy Cohen
2008-01-26 13:40 ` David Miller
2008-01-25 20:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-26 13:37 ` David Miller
2008-01-27 6:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-27 7:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-27 7:24 ` David Miller
2008-01-27 7:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-28 3:15 ` David Miller
2008-01-25 23:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-26 13:27 ` David Miller
2008-01-27 6:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-26 13:22 ` David Miller
2008-01-25 18:21 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-25 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-25 18:41 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-25 21:11 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2008-01-25 21:21 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-25 21:28 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2008-01-26 13:42 ` David Miller
2008-01-27 2:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-01-29 19:07 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2008-01-25 21:46 ` John W. Linville [this message]
2008-01-25 22:15 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-25 22:34 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-01-26 13:49 ` David Miller
2008-01-25 21:46 ` Guy Cohen
2008-01-25 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-26 13:46 ` David Miller
2008-01-25 18:34 ` John W. Linville
2008-01-24 22:17 ` Michael Buesch
2008-01-24 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-24 22:33 ` Michael Buesch
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