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From: Helmut Schaa <hschaa@suse.de>
To: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: notify the user space about low signal quality
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:34:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809151634.06448.hschaa@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1221487652.10177.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Am Montag, 15. September 2008 16:07:31 schrieb Dan Williams:
> On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 14:35 +0200, Helmut Schaa wrote:
> > This patch adds a new wext event that notifies the user space about a low
> > signal quality. The currently used indicator is as follows: If three
> > successive beacons are received with a signal quality lower then 40%
> > user space gets informed.
> >
> > Any ideas about which indicators should be used? Comments?
>
> So why does this need a new event?  Can't wpa_supplicant monitor the
> signal quality (or level/noise if the driver doesn't provide "quality")
> and do what it needs to do without any changes to the kernel at all?

I thought about that as well but I'm not sure if the signal quality/strength 
is a well enough indicator.

For example if we want to consider the number of missed beacons the current 
IWEVQUAL event is not enough to expose this information.
Additionally some devices can report missed beacons. Maybe even the quality 
values reported by the drivers are not comparable at all (although they are 
normalized to be between 0 and 100). Hence my intention was that mac80211 and 
the driver might know better which indicators matter.

Helmut

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-15 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-15 12:16 More thoughts about roaming Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 12:29 ` [RFC] Implement basic background scanning Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 14:32   ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-15 14:40     ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 15:59   ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 16:35     ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  8:43       ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  9:10         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-16  9:20           ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16 11:06             ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-16  9:15         ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-15 12:35 ` [RFC] mac80211: notify the user space about low signal quality Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 14:07   ` Dan Williams
2008-09-15 14:34     ` Helmut Schaa [this message]
2008-09-15 15:28       ` Dan Williams
2008-09-15 16:45         ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  1:21           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-09-16  7:41             ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  8:07             ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  8:12               ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-16  8:55                 ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-23 18:21                   ` John W. Linville
2008-09-16  8:00           ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  7:57         ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-15 15:10     ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-15 15:19       ` Dan Williams
2008-09-16  8:25         ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  8:50           ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-16  9:25             ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  9:32             ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16 10:23               ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-15 15:17     ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-16  7:53     ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-15 12:41 ` [RFC] wpa_supplicant: trigger a scan if signal quality is low Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 13:59 ` More thoughts about roaming Dan Williams
2008-09-15 14:18   ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 14:45     ` Dan Williams
2008-09-16  7:09 ` Kalle Valo

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