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From: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	John W Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:48:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809181948.27507.IvDoorn@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200809181937.38257.mb@bu3sch.de>

On Thursday 18 September 2008, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Thursday 18 September 2008 15:53:28 Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 September 2008, Larry Finger wrote:
> > > Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Is dev->phy.radio_on set when mac80211 has send an instruction
> > > > to the driver to enable the radio (start() or config() callback)
> > > > or does it represent the key state in the hardware?
> > > > 
> > > > If it is something coming from mac80211, then you do not want
> > > > to send a SOFT_BLOCKED event since that will cause all other radios
> > > > to be switched off simply because the b43 interface has not been
> > > > enabled.
> > > > 
> > > > Off course when it represents the key state in the hardware then the
> > > > code would be fine...
> > > 
> > > The state comes from mac80211 and is set in the config() callback.
> > > 
> > > What state should be sent at the point when the hardware block is
> > > removed? It seems to me that forcing an UNBLOCKED state gives the
> > > wrong result. Perhaps RFKILL does need to have 4 states so that an
> > > RFKILL_STATE_HW_UNBLOCKED state can be transmitted.
> > 
> > When the key is pressed to unblock the device, then simply send state
> > RFKILL_STATE_UNBLOCKED to rfkill. That will generate a trigger to the
> > driver to enable the radio,
> 
> The radio is enabled in _hardware_. There doesn't need to be any trigger.
> It's already on. In fact, such a trigger (done through rfkill->toggle callback)
> would deadlock wl->mutex with the current patch.

This depends on the hardware, for b43 the toggle() callback might not be needed,
but for rt2x00 it does (Since the key press will only raise a GPIO bit and does not
affect the radio in any way).

> > and at that time you can check if mac80211 
> > wants the radio on or not (aka you check dev->phy.radio_on or the mac80211
> > config structure).
> 
> No!
> Software and hardware rfkill states are completely different and _independent_
> states on the b43 hardware. You set the software state from the mac80211 callback
> no matter what hardware state the device is in. You just have to announce the
> state correctly to the rfkill subsystem if mac80211 changed the software
> state.

Well no actually, when the radio state (software rfkill state in your words) is changed,
it shouldn't be send to rfkill at all. rfkill should only be informed about the hardware
rfkill state changes.

> Do not change any software state from within the hardware state change handler.
> This will blow up.

When you use userspace tools this won't happen since the hardware state change handler
will send an uevent to userspace which might act upon that, and will eventually send an
instruction back to the hardware, but that goes through a different thread.

Ivo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-18 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-18  5:07 [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill Larry Finger
2008-09-18 13:19 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 13:47   ` Larry Finger
2008-09-18 13:53     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:21       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 14:26         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:52           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:19             ` [PATCH] rfkill: clarify usage of rfkill_force_state() and rfkill->get_state() Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:24               ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 16:43                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 16:45                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 17:32                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:52                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:12                         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:40                   ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:41         ` [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:37       ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:48         ` Ivo van Doorn [this message]
2008-09-18 17:56           ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:10             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:17               ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:23                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:34                   ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:36                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 19:23                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:09                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 19:08           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:17             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 20:28               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:42                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:34     ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:42       ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:49         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:02           ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 19:50             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 17:53         ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:06           ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:10   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 14:24     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:37       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:16         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 16:08           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 16:51             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:47               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 19:14                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 20:35                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 21:34                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 17:44       ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:52         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:54           ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:06             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:13               ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 20:10               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:41                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 21:36                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-19 17:02                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-20 13:10                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-20 13:20                         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-22  3:01                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-22 21:16                             ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:31 ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 20:13   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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