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From: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	John W Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:10:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809182010.35285.IvDoorn@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200809181957.00151.mb@bu3sch.de>

On Thursday 18 September 2008, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Thursday 18 September 2008 19:48:27 Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> > Well no actually, when the radio state (software rfkill state in your words)
> 
> No, "radio state" is _not_ "software rfkill state" in my words.
> It's an independent state.
> The actual physical radio state is a combined state of the two sw and hw state bits.
> If either bit blocks the radio, it's physically blocked. We cannot toggle the hw bit
> from software.

Ah ok. In that case b43 should do:

send HW_BLOCK when the hardware rfkill state is set to block
send SOFT_BLOCK when the software rfkill state is set to block

But it shouldn't (and that change was the start of this discussion) send SOFT_BLOCK
when mac80211 disabled the radio.

> > it shouldn't be send to rfkill at all. rfkill should only be informed about the hardware
> > rfkill state changes.
> 
> So that's fine. We just revert the patch that caused all the trouble and we will
> gain _exactly_ that.
>
> > > Do not change any software state from within the hardware state change handler.
> > > This will blow up.
> > 
> > When you use userspace tools this won't happen since the hardware state change handler
> > will send an uevent to userspace which might act upon that, and will eventually send an
> > instruction back to the hardware, but that goes through a different thread.
> 
> It will semantically blow up. See the initial mail from Larry with the regression report.

Ok.

Ivo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-18 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-18  5:07 [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill Larry Finger
2008-09-18 13:19 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 13:47   ` Larry Finger
2008-09-18 13:53     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:21       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 14:26         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:52           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:19             ` [PATCH] rfkill: clarify usage of rfkill_force_state() and rfkill->get_state() Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:24               ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 16:43                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 16:45                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 17:32                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:52                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:12                         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:40                   ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:41         ` [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:37       ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:48         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:56           ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:10             ` Ivo van Doorn [this message]
2008-09-18 18:17               ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:23                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:34                   ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:36                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 19:23                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:09                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 19:08           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:17             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 20:28               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:42                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:34     ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:42       ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:49         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:02           ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 19:50             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 17:53         ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:06           ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:10   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 14:24     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:37       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:16         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 16:08           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 16:51             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:47               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 19:14                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 20:35                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 21:34                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 17:44       ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:52         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:54           ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:06             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:13               ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 20:10               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:41                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 21:36                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-19 17:02                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-20 13:10                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-20 13:20                         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-22  3:01                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-22 21:16                             ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:31 ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 20:13   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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