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From: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	John W Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:02:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809191902.03467.IvDoorn@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080918213657.GY1583@khazad-dum.debian.net>

On Thursday 18 September 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 September 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 18 September 2008, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 19:52 +0200, Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> > > > > > From rfkill.h:
> > > > > > 	RFKILL_STATE_SOFT_BLOCKED = 0,	/* Radio output blocked */
> > > > > > 	RFKILL_STATE_UNBLOCKED    = 1,	/* Radio output allowed */
> > > > > > 	RFKILL_STATE_HARD_BLOCKED = 2,	/* Output blocked, non-overrideable */
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Since b43 has a rfkill mechanism that does switch of the radio when RFKILL is set to BLOCK
> > > > > > after a key press, it should send RFKILL_STATE_HARD_BLOCKED because rfkill cannot override
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > rt2x00 hardware does not change the radio state when RFKILL is set to BLOCK after a key press,
> > > > > > the state is therefor overridable and it can send RFKILL_STATE_SOFT_BLOCKED to rfkill.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If rt2x00 has no meaning of "hardware blocked", why is the button not a
> > > > > simple input device?
> > > > 
> > > > Because I had that discussion with Henrique and that ended with a "it isn't a input device"...
> > > 
> > > Because I NEVER UNDERSTOOD it was not a hardware rfkill line until a few
> > > posts ago in this thread.  Argh.  My deepest apologies for that screw up.
> > > 
> > > Now that I do, my answer is "depends on how the platform used that input pin".
> > > 
> > > If it is directly connected to a switch (you get on/off from it) or a button
> > > (you get "I have been pressed, please toggle the state"), it is an input
> > > device.  [a]
> > > 
> > > If it is directly connected to some crap inside the platform, that is
> > > controlled by firmware, it is NOT an input device.  [b]
> > 
> > Ok, rt2x00 is definately [a]
> > 
> > > I hope it is a switch, and that you can just always provide an input device
> > > that issues some sort of EV_SW event (if you need it, we ask Dmitry to add
> > > EV_SW SW_WLAN).
> > 
> > Ok, I'll readd the input_polldev to rt2x00 again then. :)
> 
> But do use EV_SW if it is a switch, please :-)

Sure.

> Even if that means a need to 
> get EV_SW SW_WLAN out of Dmitry...  I don't know if rt2x000 wants SW_WLAN or
> SW_RFKILL_ALL.

Not sure either, there is no way to determine which of the 2 should be used.

Oh an to make sure I get it completely right this time:
When I implement the input polldev, I no longer have to use rfkill_force_state() right?

Ivo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-19 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-18  5:07 [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill Larry Finger
2008-09-18 13:19 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 13:47   ` Larry Finger
2008-09-18 13:53     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:21       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 14:26         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:52           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:19             ` [PATCH] rfkill: clarify usage of rfkill_force_state() and rfkill->get_state() Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:24               ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 16:43                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 16:45                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 17:32                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:52                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:12                         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:40                   ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:41         ` [RFC] b43: A patch for control of the radio LED using rfkill Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:37       ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:48         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:56           ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:10             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:17               ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:23                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:34                   ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:36                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 19:23                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:09                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 19:08           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:17             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 20:28               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:42                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:34     ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:42       ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:49         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:02           ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 19:50             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 17:53         ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 18:06           ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:10   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 14:24     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 14:37       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 15:16         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 16:08           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 16:51             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:47               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 19:14                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 20:35                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 21:34                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 17:44       ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:52         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 17:54           ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 18:06             ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 18:13               ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-18 20:10               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-18 20:41                 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 21:36                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-19 17:02                     ` Ivo van Doorn [this message]
2008-09-20 13:10                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-20 13:20                         ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-22  3:01                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-22 21:16                             ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 17:31 ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-18 20:13   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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