libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

By default do we want users of compat-wireless to get libertas_usb or
libertas_tf? Both drivers are for Marvell Libertas 8388 USB 802.11b/g
cards so we need to pick one.

  Luis

Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Dan Williams]

On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:32 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> By default do we want users of compat-wireless to get libertas_usb or
> libertas_tf? Both drivers are for Marvell Libertas 8388 USB 802.11b/g
> cards so we need to pick one.

I think libertas_tf is still experimental at this time.  Louis could
elaborate more.

Dan

Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Dan Williams]

On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 10:53 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:32 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > By default do we want users of compat-wireless to get libertas_usb or
> > libertas_tf? Both drivers are for Marvell Libertas 8388 USB 802.11b/g
> > cards so we need to pick one.
> 
> I think libertas_tf is still experimental at this time.  Louis could
> elaborate more.

And that would be Luis (luisca) not Louis.  Sorry Luis! :)

Dan

Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 09:57:29AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 10:53 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:32 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > By default do we want users of compat-wireless to get libertas_usb or
> > > libertas_tf? Both drivers are for Marvell Libertas 8388 USB 802.11b/g
> > > cards so we need to pick one.
> >
> > I think libertas_tf is still experimental at this time.  Louis could
> > elaborate more.
> 
> And that would be Luis (luisca) not Louis.  Sorry Luis! :)

Heh, thanks. Hm, I thik Luis is on his trip around the world.

  Luis

Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Andrey Yurovsky]

libertas_tf is a softmac driver developed mainly so that XO's can run
hostapd and the like.  libertas is the general (fullmac) driver and,
in my opinion, should be the one users get unless they specifically
wanted libertas_tf because they're experimenting with AP mode or other
mac80211 features.  So I guess I'd vote for libertas over libertas_tf
at this time, for what it's worth.

  -Andrey

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez
<lrodriguez@atheros.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 09:57:29AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 10:53 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:32 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> > > By default do we want users of compat-wireless to get libertas_usb or
>> > > libertas_tf? Both drivers are for Marvell Libertas 8388 USB 802.11b/g
>> > > cards so we need to pick one.
>> >
>> > I think libertas_tf is still experimental at this time.  Louis could
>> > elaborate more.
>>
>> And that would be Luis (luisca) not Louis.  Sorry Luis! :)
>
> Heh, thanks. Hm, I thik Luis is on his trip around the world.
>
>  Luis
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Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Stefanik Gábor]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrey Yurovsky <andrey@cozybit.com> wrote:
> libertas_tf is a softmac driver developed mainly so that XO's can run
> hostapd and the like.  libertas is the general (fullmac) driver and,
> in my opinion, should be the one users get unless they specifically
> wanted libertas_tf because they're experimenting with AP mode or other
> mac80211 features.  So I guess I'd vote for libertas over libertas_tf
> at this time, for what it's worth.
>
>  -Andrey

I think libertas_usb should be a default (as it's HW accelerated), but
libertas_tf should be included as an option (disabled by default in
config.mk, or auto-added to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist upon make
install).

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Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:16:36PM -0800, Stefanik G=E1bor wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrey Yurovsky <andrey@cozybit.com=
> wrote:
> > libertas_tf is a softmac driver developed mainly so that XO's can r=
un
> > hostapd and the like.  libertas is the general (fullmac) driver and=
,
> > in my opinion, should be the one users get unless they specifically
> > wanted libertas_tf because they're experimenting with AP mode or ot=
her
> > mac80211 features.  So I guess I'd vote for libertas over libertas_=
tf
> > at this time, for what it's worth.
> >
> >  -Andrey
>=20
> I think libertas_usb should be a default (as it's HW accelerated), bu=
t
> libertas_tf should be included as an option (disabled by default in
> config.mk, or auto-added to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist upon make
> install).

OK so I've done this on config.mk:

ifneq ($(CONFIG_USB),)
ifneq ($(CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB),m)
CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB=3Dm
NEED_LIBERTAS=3Dy
endif
endif

This means you'll get CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB unless your kernel
already was built with CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB for all those
building with it. If your kernel was built with both then its your
problem.

  Luis
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Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Stefanik Gábor]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
<lrodriguez@atheros.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:16:36PM -0800, Stefanik G=E1bor wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrey Yurovsky <andrey@cozybit.co=
m> wrote:
>> > libertas_tf is a softmac driver developed mainly so that XO's can =
run
>> > hostapd and the like.  libertas is the general (fullmac) driver an=
d,
>> > in my opinion, should be the one users get unless they specificall=
y
>> > wanted libertas_tf because they're experimenting with AP mode or o=
ther
>> > mac80211 features.  So I guess I'd vote for libertas over libertas=
_tf
>> > at this time, for what it's worth.
>> >
>> >  -Andrey
>>
>> I think libertas_usb should be a default (as it's HW accelerated), b=
ut
>> libertas_tf should be included as an option (disabled by default in
>> config.mk, or auto-added to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist upon make
>> install).
>
> OK so I've done this on config.mk:
>
> ifneq ($(CONFIG_USB),)
> ifneq ($(CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB),m)
> CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB=3Dm
> NEED_LIBERTAS=3Dy
> endif
> endif
>
> This means you'll get CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB unless your kernel
> already was built with CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB for all those
> building with it. If your kernel was built with both then its your
> problem.
>
>  Luis
>

If the kernel has both, compat-wireless should also build both.

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Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

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Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Stefanik Gábor]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
<lrodriguez@atheros.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Stefanik G=E1bor <netrolller.3d@gmai=
l.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
>> <lrodriguez@atheros.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:16:36PM -0800, Stefanik G=E1bor wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrey Yurovsky <andrey@cozybit.=
com> wrote:
>>>> > libertas_tf is a softmac driver developed mainly so that XO's ca=
n run
>>>> > hostapd and the like.  libertas is the general (fullmac) driver =
and,
>>>> > in my opinion, should be the one users get unless they specifica=
lly
>>>> > wanted libertas_tf because they're experimenting with AP mode or=
 other
>>>> > mac80211 features.  So I guess I'd vote for libertas over libert=
as_tf
>>>> > at this time, for what it's worth.
>>>> >
>>>> >  -Andrey
>>>>
>>>> I think libertas_usb should be a default (as it's HW accelerated),=
 but
>>>> libertas_tf should be included as an option (disabled by default i=
n
>>>> config.mk, or auto-added to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist upon make
>>>> install).
>>>
>>> OK so I've done this on config.mk:
>>>
>>> ifneq ($(CONFIG_USB),)
>>> ifneq ($(CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB),m)
>>> CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB=3Dm
>>> NEED_LIBERTAS=3Dy
>>> endif
>>> endif
>>>
>>> This means you'll get CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB unless your kernel
>>> already was built with CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB for all those
>>> building with it. If your kernel was built with both then its your
>>> problem.
>>>
>>>  Luis
>>>
>>
>> If the kernel has both, compat-wireless should also build both.
>
> The kernel has both, compat-wireless has both but we respect your
> kernel .config unless we know better (we picked b43 over bcm43xx
> before). In this case we don't want to prefer one over the other so w=
e
> simply stick to the decision of whoever built your kernel.
>
>  Luis
>

I mean if both are enabled, and both were built.

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Re: libertas_tf should replace libertas_usb on compat-wireless?

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 03:23:05PM -0800, Stefanik G=E1bor wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
> <lrodriguez@atheros.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Stefanik G=E1bor <netrolller.3d@gm=
ail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
> >> <lrodriguez@atheros.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:16:36PM -0800, Stefanik G=E1bor wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrey Yurovsky <andrey@cozybi=
t.com> wrote:
> >>>> > libertas_tf is a softmac driver developed mainly so that XO's =
can run
> >>>> > hostapd and the like.  libertas is the general (fullmac) drive=
r and,
> >>>> > in my opinion, should be the one users get unless they specifi=
cally
> >>>> > wanted libertas_tf because they're experimenting with AP mode =
or other
> >>>> > mac80211 features.  So I guess I'd vote for libertas over libe=
rtas_tf
> >>>> > at this time, for what it's worth.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >  -Andrey
> >>>>
> >>>> I think libertas_usb should be a default (as it's HW accelerated=
), but
> >>>> libertas_tf should be included as an option (disabled by default=
 in
> >>>> config.mk, or auto-added to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist upon make
> >>>> install).
> >>>
> >>> OK so I've done this on config.mk:
> >>>
> >>> ifneq ($(CONFIG_USB),)
> >>> ifneq ($(CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB),m)
> >>> CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB=3Dm
> >>> NEED_LIBERTAS=3Dy
> >>> endif
> >>> endif
> >>>
> >>> This means you'll get CONFIG_LIBERTAS_USB unless your kernel
> >>> already was built with CONFIG_LIBERTAS_THINFIRM_USB for all those
> >>> building with it. If your kernel was built with both then its you=
r
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >>>  Luis
> >>>
> >>
> >> If the kernel has both, compat-wireless should also build both.
> >
> > The kernel has both, compat-wireless has both but we respect your
> > kernel .config unless we know better (we picked b43 over bcm43xx
> > before). In this case we don't want to prefer one over the other so=
 we
> > simply stick to the decision of whoever built your kernel.
> >
> >  Luis
> >
>=20
> I mean if both are enabled, and both were built.

OK yeah agreed, but if the user has nothing then we should pick one
for them too, in this case it'll be LIBERTAS_USB.

 Luis
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