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From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de,
	hmh@hmh.eng.br
Subject: Re: [RFC] b43: rework rfkill code
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:04:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200812101904.07809.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081210175102.GA14282@srcf.ucam.org>

On Wednesday 10 December 2008 18:51:02 Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 06:37:23PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> 
> > Ok. I think the fundamental flaw here is assuming that there's just a
> > single state. There isn't. The device can be turned off in hardware (in
> > which case sw won't be able do anything about it, but we want to know)
> > or in software (which we want to handle). Pretending that there's just a
> > single state that's either hw-off, sw-off or on is plain wrong. The
> > device can be hw-off and sw-off at the same time, and then if you turn
> > off the hw-off button it won't turn on (however, unless your system
> > integrator totally screwed up, you won't have a hw and a sw button on
> > your system)
> 
> They may not be physical buttons, but we can often control this anyway. 

But we do not _want_ it.
If you can do it, keep it private to the driver. Do not export it to other layers.
If you need to to sw-rfkill through it, do it in the driver and multiplex
the hw-sw-states in the driver.

-- 
Greetings, Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-10 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-10 15:09 [RFC] b43: rework rfkill code Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 15:29 ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 16:15   ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-12-10 16:51   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-12-10 17:18     ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:23       ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:28         ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 21:33           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-12-10 21:42             ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 17:31         ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 17:37           ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:51             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 18:04               ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2008-12-10 18:05               ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 18:09                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 18:29                 ` Dan Williams
2008-12-10 18:33                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 18:59                     ` Dan Williams
2008-12-10 20:07                   ` Michael Buesch
2009-03-29 18:19     ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-11  0:32   ` Julian Calaby
2008-12-11  1:27     ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-11 13:28       ` Kalle Valo
2008-12-10 15:48 ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 16:12   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-11 16:55 ` Larry Finger
2008-12-12  4:28 ` Larry Finger
2008-12-17 15:48   ` John W. Linville

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