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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Subject: Re: rate instability in wireless stack
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:24:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090105152410.GT496@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49621C36.70602@openwrt.org>

On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:41:58PM +0100, Felix Fietkau wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> > With Larry's patch reverted. Rate is still at 1Mbit/s of course.
> > This is all only with rtl8180, I didn't try everything on the realtek
> > card too. 
> > 
> > -Andi
> > 
> > rate     throughput  ewma prob   this prob  this succ/attempt   success    attempts
> > TtP  1         0.9       99.2      100.0          1(  1)         23          32
> >      2         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >      5.5       0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           1
> >     11         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >      6         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >      9         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >     12         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >     18         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >     24         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >     36         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >     48         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> >     54         0.0        0.0        0.0          0(  0)          0           0
> > 
> > Total packet count::    ideal 25      lookaround 1
> OK, that confirms that Larry's patch was wrong - at least the dump
> looks consistent now.
> Probably the RT2561 and the RTL8180 simply have a lower Tx power and

> thus can't get the signal through the walls as easily as the zd1211rw.

That surprises me because I use a real antenna on them which the zd1211rw
is just itself. Also some laptops with Intel wireless have no trouble
talking through the walls at full rate when I put them on the same position.

Hmm perhaps I should try to find a Windows box and see if it works
there. That would rule out hardware issues.

> If you still think that it's a rate control problem, please try all

I don't know what it is, i just know that it doesn't work and
from the evidence I gathered so far it looks like a Linux software
problem.

> the rates individually and see if one of them works better.

Forcing the rates works somewhat, but the link quality is very poor
(10-15/100) and fluctuates.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-05 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-04 16:46 rate instability in wireless stack Andi Kleen
2009-01-04 16:36 ` Michael Buesch
2009-01-04 17:41   ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05  0:29     ` Larry Finger
2009-01-05  2:53       ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05  3:55         ` Larry Finger
2009-01-05  5:02           ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05  4:59             ` Larry Finger
2009-01-05  5:48               ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05  5:51                 ` Larry Finger
2009-01-05  8:17                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-01-05 12:54                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05 13:32                 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-01-05 14:23                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05 14:41                     ` Felix Fietkau
2009-01-05 15:24                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-01-05 15:25                         ` Felix Fietkau
2009-01-05 16:35                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05 16:36                             ` Felix Fietkau
2009-01-05 17:11                               ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-05 17:01                                 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-01-05 19:33                                   ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-01-05 20:16                                     ` Larry Finger
2009-01-05  4:22         ` Larry Finger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-07  6:46 Martín Ernesto Barreyro

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