From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:55646 "EHLO out1.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752356AbZAMU4v (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:56:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:56:46 -0200 From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh To: Werner Almesberger Cc: Hans Henry von Tresckow , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: rfkill: how murderous can it be ? Message-ID: <20090113205646.GA17214@khazad-dum.debian.net> (sfid-20090113_215655_519104_AD009FE2) References: <20090112191514.GA22112@almesberger.net> <20090113131422.GA27676@khazad-dum.debian.net> <20090113161129.GB22112@almesberger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20090113161129.GB22112@almesberger.net> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > If you kick it out of the bus (cause a full hotunplug on rfkill block, > > and a hotplug when rfkill unblocks), it is userspace. > > > > But what if you do it halfway? That's what is being asked here... > > If kicking it out of the bus is okay, then that's just what I'll > do. This gives us clear and familiar semantics and avoids complex > and fragile state preservation in the kernel. Yes, it is okay. It has to be, many devices absolutely require it. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh