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From: David Young <dyoung@pobox.com>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	G?bor Stefanik <netrolller.3d@gmail.com>,
	radiotap@radiotap.org,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Proposal]TX flags
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:48:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090416204806.GD25412@ojctech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200904162110.05150.mb@bu3sch.de>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:10:04PM +0200, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Thursday 16 April 2009 20:59:34 Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 20:47 +0200, G?bor Stefanik wrote:
> > 
> > > Alternatively, the meanings of the {0,0} and {1,1} cases could be
> > > switched around (making the {0,0} case more logical, at the expense of
> > > the {1,1} one):
> > > 
> > > TX Flags absent: Use RTS & CTS as needed.
> > > TX Flags present: {
> > > RTS=0, CTS=0: Use RTS & CTS as needed.
> > > RTS=0, CTS=1: Use CTS-to-self.
> > > RTS=1, CTS=0: Use RTS/CTS-handshake.
> > > RTS=1, CTS=1: Use neither RTS nor CTS.
> 
> The first and the last thing let my head explode, because it's not
> what somebody would expect from such bits. This kind of logic is also
> used in wext. And it's why I hate wext. "bit0 means x, bit1 means y,
> buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut iff both bits are set the whole logic is inverted
> and whatever..."  That complicates _every_ single test of the bit
> (always need if (bit0 is set but not bit1)) It produces spaghetti code
> interpreting these bits with lots of branches and special conditions
> that nobody does understand by reading the code alone.  If you can't
> encode your functionality into a boolean, do _NOT_ use bits to encode
> it.  Use integers to encode tristate or quadstate or whatever.  You
> essentially _did_ that already, if you look at your bits. You use the
> two individual bits as 2bit integer value. So why not spell it out and
> use an integer field for that information?

G?bor,

I see the point that Michael is making.  What do you think?  Shall
we treat it as a 2-bit wide unsigned integer field in the Tx flags,
instead?

Dave

-- 
David Young             OJC Technologies
dyoung@ojctech.com      Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-16 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-15  0:33 [Proposal]TX flags Gábor Stefanik
2009-04-16 15:37 ` David Young
2009-04-16 17:28 ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-16 18:47   ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-04-16 18:59     ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-16 19:10       ` Michael Buesch
2009-04-16 20:48         ` David Young [this message]
2009-04-17  1:24           ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-04-17  9:50             ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-16 20:33       ` David Young
2009-04-16 20:48         ` Johannes Berg
2010-03-22 19:32 ` Michael Stahn
2010-03-23  0:42   ` Bruno Randolf
2010-03-23 15:50     ` Michael Stahn
2010-03-24 11:15       ` Bruno Randolf
2010-03-24 19:43         ` Pavel Roskin
2010-03-24 20:26           ` Gábor Stefanik
2010-03-25  1:22             ` Michael Stahn
2010-03-25 20:32               ` Gábor Stefanik

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