From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
To: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:22:27 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090610022227.GE593@khazad-dum.debian.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1244394258.1846.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009, Dan Williams wrote:
> 3G cards have two ways of being killed:
>
> 1) Put them to sleep; Sierra for example has code that does this
> already, it will take the modem out of D3 sleep on startup. No reason
> why rfkill couldn't just stick it back there. Drivers that implement
> this method would be easy to integrate with rfkill if the BIOS/platform
> module doesn't do it for them (hp-wmi will drop the 3G card off the bus
> on the 2530p when you rfkill it, just like bluetooth, so nothing else is
> needed there).
thinkpads will power down the card (and obviously kick it off-bus), as
well. This is how they disable bluetooth and 3G.
I have code in thinkpad-acpi that tells the fw to power these radios
down during sleep, and resume with them powered off. Needs to be
unbroken to not do that on wake devices one of these days (_if_ the
thinkpad supports bluetooth or wwan as wake devices, something I also
have to find out).
BTW: please do send me a note of how you guys will want to do sleep/
resume with the new core, I probably will have to adjust thinkpad-acpi
to play well with it.
> 2) CFUN=0; that is supposed to shut down all radios, but of course that
> requires the serial port of the card and the firmware to be loaded and
> whatever. And that should only be done by the daemon (if any, like
> ModemManager or Wader or whatever) that is arbitrating the serial port.
> That's not something that rfkilld should do.
And, to make matters worse, you are likely to find that lots of devices
screw that up (probably by just ignoring it silently) :-( The people
writing the firmware for these modems do an even worse job than the
people writing ACPI BIOSes...
--
"One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
Henrique Holschuh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-10 2:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-28 15:31 [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-28 15:58 ` [PATCH v3] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 8:38 ` [PATCH v4] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 10:43 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 9:13 ` [PATCH] " Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 9:58 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 12:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-05-31 13:18 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 7:33 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 8:17 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 12:10 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:05 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 14:57 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 16:10 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 19:44 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 22:26 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02 7:38 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:01 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-02 8:18 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 4:03 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03 5:57 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:33 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 12:38 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 12:57 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:28 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:16 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-07 17:26 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:14 ` [RFC] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state() Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:32 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:10 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:13 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:15 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:19 ` [PATCH v2] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:24 ` [PATCH v3] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 12:27 ` [PATCH v4] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-10 1:55 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:46 ` [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 16:04 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 16:35 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 17:16 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:25 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10 2:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10 9:06 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-11 12:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 12:56 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:04 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-10 2:22 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [this message]
2009-06-10 7:16 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:33 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02 8:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 4:10 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03 6:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:38 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:20 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 13:03 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-03 21:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:24 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 13:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:36 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10 2:44 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:19 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 12:28 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:37 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:38 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:45 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:50 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:33 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 14:29 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:37 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:50 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:53 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 17:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 19:22 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:43 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:49 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:53 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 13:51 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 13:54 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 18:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:03 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 21:19 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-01 7:18 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 7:27 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 7:40 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:08 ` [PATCH v5] " Johannes Berg
2009-06-02 8:33 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 9:41 ` [PATCH v6] " Johannes Berg
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