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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>
Cc: "Gábor Stefanik" <netrolller.3d@gmail.com>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"Larry Finger" <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	"Hin-Tak Leung" <hintak.leung@gmail.com>,
	"Tobias Schlemmer" <keinstein_junior@gmx.net>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rtl8187b Problem with tx level
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:21:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090901002142.GA26119@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43e72e890908311656o6f4a4157k6f967dc4934e6dd0@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:56:11PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> 2009/8/31 Gábor Stefanik <netrolller.3d@gmail.com>:
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez<mcgrof@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 2009/8/31 Gábor Stefanik <netrolller.3d@gmail.com>:
> >>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Larry Finger<Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net> wrote:
> >>>> Hin-Tak Leung wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just took a look at the history - there aren't obvious bug fixes, a
> >>>>> bunch of work queue-related changes from you & Johannes; feature-wise,
> >>>>> Larry added LED blinking after 2.6.30, and Herton added rfkill support
> >>>>> quite recently after 2.6.31-rc7 . But no, there isn't any change that
> >>>>> would affect tx level beyond 2.6.31-rc7, I think.
> >>>>
> >>>> Your analysis matches my recollection.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently RealTek is supplying a closed-source driver for RTL8187B
> >>>> these days. There are no sources for the B on their web site. In
> >>>> addition, the one that Tobias loaded tainted his kernel.
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry
> >>>
> >>> The driver is not actually closed-source; they just don't provide any
> >>> drivers on their site anymore, instead they send their reference
> >>> drivers to OEMs, expecting the OEMs to release their own versions
> >>> (with sources - most vendors who do release Linux drivers in fact only
> >>> release sources, without binaries). The reason for this appears to be
> >>> that Realtek now encourages vendors to sell RTL81xx wireless chips
> >>> with modified USB IDs. (Or are you seeing a binary-only driver on
> >>> realtek.com.tw? That would definitely be a GPL violation, given that
> >>> they use a modified version of the GPLed libipw stack.)
> >>
> >> Gabor, do you speak to RealkTek folks? It seems what may be best for
> >> OEMs and RealTek themselves is to post drivers for inclusion into
> >> staging first and then for interested parties to port them properly.
> >>
> >>  Luis
> >
> > Not yet, I haven't tried contacting them. I simply based my comments
> > on the fact that OEMs are releasing sources. However, contacting them
> > about work to include their drivers in the kernel is a good idea -
> > apparently there is nothing keeping Realtek from taking community
> > contributions (unlike e.g. Zydas - the vendor driver is based on
> > Andrea Merello's old r8180-sa2400 driver, and was not developed
> > in-house by Realtek).
> 
> If anyone has contacts that does indeed seem reasonable to do, seems
> like it could help them and their customers.

I do have a few contacts there, and have been trying to work with them
to do this, but it is slow going :(

thanks,

greg k-h

      reply	other threads:[~2009-09-01  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-30 20:44 rtl8187b Problem with tx level Tobias Schlemmer
2009-08-30 23:00 ` Larry Finger
2009-08-31  9:59   ` Tobias Schlemmer
2009-08-31 15:49     ` Larry Finger
2009-08-31 16:51       ` Tobias Schlemmer
2009-08-31 17:55 ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-08-31 18:02   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-08-31 18:32     ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-08-31 18:41       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-08-31 18:57         ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-08-31 21:10           ` Larry Finger
2009-08-31 21:18             ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-08-31 21:38               ` Larry Finger
2009-08-31 23:16                 ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-09-01 13:13                   ` John W. Linville
2009-09-01 16:37                   ` Larry Finger
2009-09-02 10:28                     ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-08-31 23:37               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-08-31 23:46                 ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-08-31 23:56                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-09-01  0:21                     ` Greg KH [this message]

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