From: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU"
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:55:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200910081655.37485.elendil@planet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091008064041.67219b13@infradead.org>
On Thursday 08 October 2009, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:24:16 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] x86, timers: check for pending timers after (device)
> interrupts
>
> Now that range timers and deferred timers are common, I found a
> problem with these using the "perf timechart" tool.
>
> It turns out that on x86, these two 'opportunistic' timers only
> get checked when another "real" timer happens.
> These opportunistic timers have the objective to save power by
> hitchhiking on other wakeups, as to avoid CPU wakeups by themselves
> as much as possible.
This patch makes quite a difference for me. iwlagn and phy0 now
consistently show at ~10 ms or lower.
I do still get occasional high latencies, but those are for things like
"[rpc_wait_bit_killable]" or "Writing a page to disk", where I guess you'd
expect them. Those high latencies are mostly only listed for "Global" and
don't translate to individual processes.
On Thursday 08 October 2009, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:24:22 +0200 Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Latencytop was accounting uninterruptible and interruptible sleep
> > time up to 5ms, which is not the latency the user is looking for.
>
> it is for everything but the scheduler latency!
>
> latencytop wants to show where you're waiting for disk, etc etc.
> that's not "time on runqueue".
The ~10 ms I still get for iwlagn and phy0 (and sometimes higher (~30 ms)
for others like Xorg and artsd) is still "Scheduler: waiting for cpu'. If
it is actually due to (un)interuptable sleep, isn't that a misleading
label? I directly associated that with scheduler latency.
Or are those that are left now real scheduler latencies? The values are now
low enough that they don't indicate a problem.
Thanks,
FJP
P.S. I may be seeing another issue in the latencytop GUI. Sometimes I see
"fsync() on a file (type 'F' for details)". But typing 'F' only gets me a
search for a target starting with "F", no details.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-08 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-05 13:00 [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU" Frans Pop
2009-10-05 14:13 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-05 14:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-06 15:49 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 17:10 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 18:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-07 18:34 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-08 4:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 6:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 14:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 14:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 14:55 ` Frans Pop [this message]
2009-10-08 15:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 18:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 20:34 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2009-10-09 3:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09 3:51 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2009-10-08 20:59 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-09 3:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09 6:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09 7:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09 7:55 ` Sedat Dilek
2009-10-09 8:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09 16:27 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-09 20:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 11:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:09 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-08 13:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 14:15 ` Mike Galbraith
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