From: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>
To: Frank Schaefer <schaefer.frank@gmx.net>
Cc: Matthew Dharm <mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ar9170usb: add mode-switching for AVM Fritz!WLAN USB N devices in cdrom mode
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:49:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911012149.57966.chunkeey@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AEDEE7C.4010406@gmx.net>
On Sunday 01 November 2009 21:24:28 Frank Schaefer wrote:
> Matthew Dharm schrieb:
> > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:29:20PM +0100, Josua Dietze wrote:
> >
> >> Frank Schaefer schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I really think the mode-switching should be done in the kernel and not
> >>> in user-space for reasons of usability.
> >>>
> >> What is wrong with an udev rule entry? By the way, did the "eject"
> >> command line tool work as well?
> >>
> >
> > And I think it should be done in userspace for issues of maintainability
> > and useability. It is much easier for users to upgrade their udev then
> > their kernel.
> >
> Maintainability for whom ? The kernel-devs or the distro-people and the
> users ? ;)
>
> Please think about the users. They don't know that they have to create
> udev-rules or have to install additional packages like usb_modeswitch
> (which is nevertheless a great tool !).
> And even if they know, they don't want to do that. So it's up to the
> distros to do this automatically, which will in reality never come true
> for all devices and distros.
yes, please think about the users!
All not-so-trival-changes have to go through wireless-testing / wireless-next,
net-next, linux-next until it hits finally the mainline... And then only users
which are able to update their kernels will benefit, *everyone else* has
to wait until their distros to pick up the new kernel... this could be easily more
than a year before the device will work right out of the box for *everyone else*.
Therefore udev should be the way to go... and as a bonus: a userspace/udev solution
does work with older kernels right away!
Regards,
Chr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-01 20:50 UTC|newest]
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2009-11-01 18:00 ` [PATCH] ar9170usb: add mode-switching for AVM Fritz!WLAN USB N devices in cdrom mode Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 18:27 ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-01 20:02 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 18:29 ` Josua Dietze
2009-11-01 18:35 ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-01 20:24 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 20:49 ` Christian Lamparter [this message]
2009-11-02 20:16 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 0:47 ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 20:07 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 21:10 ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 21:15 ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-03 20:33 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 20:11 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 0:51 ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 20:10 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 20:18 ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 21:05 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 21:37 ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 21:45 ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 22:23 ` Christian Lamparter
2009-11-03 20:22 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 21:11 ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 21:42 ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 22:39 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-03 0:54 ` Dan Williams
2009-11-03 10:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-03 15:16 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-03 16:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-03 22:47 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-03 23:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-04 3:57 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-04 9:11 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-03 20:42 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-04 16:16 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-04 16:25 ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-04 17:07 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-04 17:41 ` Josua Dietze
2009-11-04 16:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-04 17:41 ` Josua Dietze
2009-11-03 10:57 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-03 12:58 ` Christian Lamparter
2009-11-03 20:18 ` Frank Schaefer
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