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From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Dharm <mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net>,
	Frank Schaefer <schaefer.frank@gmx.net>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ar9170usb: add mode-switching for AVM Fritz!WLAN USB N devices in cdrom mode
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:29:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911031729.26463.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0911031001470.10778-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 16:16:12 schrieb Alan Stern:
> This sounds as if you are trying very hard to get the _worst_ of both
> worlds!  You would force users to upgrade their kernels before they can
> use new devices (because the kernel is where the mode-switch code will
> be), and you also would force them to upgrade their userspace settings
> (so that the new mode-switch code will be called).

Yes.

> I'm with Matt Dharm and Josua Dietze on this.  Jobs that can be handled
> in userspace _should_ be handled there.

There is the inconvenient problem of hibernation. And, if more systems
start cutting power to USB in STR, the problem of STR. I am inclined
to declare that hibernation is a problem of those pesky misdesigns.
But dare we say that also about STR?

	Regards
		Oliver


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-03 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200910171606.02961.oliver@neukum.org>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0910171130550.25594-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
     [not found]   ` <20091017220313.GH24502@one-eyed-alien.net>
     [not found]     ` <4ADC3657.6080906@gmx.net>
2009-11-01 18:00       ` [PATCH] ar9170usb: add mode-switching for AVM Fritz!WLAN USB N devices in cdrom mode Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 18:27         ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-01 20:02           ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 18:29         ` Josua Dietze
2009-11-01 18:35           ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-01 20:24             ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 20:49               ` Christian Lamparter
2009-11-02 20:16                 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02  0:47               ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 20:07                 ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 21:10                   ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 21:15                     ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-03 20:33                     ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-01 20:11           ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02  0:51             ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 20:10               ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 20:18                 ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 21:05                   ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 21:37                     ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 21:45                     ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 22:23                       ` Christian Lamparter
2009-11-03 20:22                       ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-02 21:11                   ` Matthew Dharm
2009-11-02 21:42                     ` Dan Williams
2009-11-02 22:39                       ` Alan Cox
2009-11-03  0:54                         ` Dan Williams
2009-11-03 10:55                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-03 15:16                       ` Alan Stern
2009-11-03 16:29                         ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2009-11-03 22:47                           ` Alan Stern
2009-11-03 23:55                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-04  3:57                               ` Alan Stern
2009-11-04  9:11                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-03 20:42                         ` Frank Schaefer
2009-11-04 16:16                           ` Alan Stern
2009-11-04 16:25                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-04 17:07                               ` Alan Stern
2009-11-04 17:41                                 ` Josua Dietze
2009-11-04 16:41                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-04 17:41                               ` Josua Dietze
2009-11-03 10:57                     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-03 12:58                       ` Christian Lamparter
2009-11-03 20:18                   ` Frank Schaefer

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