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From: Bruno Randolf <br1@einfach.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: linville@tuxdriver.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mac80211: Initialize IBSS basic rates according to band
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:56:39 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004131656.40025.br1@einfach.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271143275.4885.3.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>

On Tuesday 13 April 2010 16:21:15 Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:16 +0900, Bruno Randolf wrote:
> > On Monday 12 April 2010 17:40:52 you wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 17:34 +0900, Bruno Randolf wrote:
> > > > before we unconditionally used 3 (1Mbps, 2 Mbps) as basic rates. this
> > > > clearly is wrong in the 5GHz band.
> > > 
> > > No, it's fine. Look again at how this works.
> > 
> > (hello? can you please stop treating me like an idiot?)
> > 
> > this means we use 6 and 9 as basic rates in the 5GHz band.
> > we should use 6, 12 and 24.
> 
> No, we can treat 6 and 9 as basic rates if we want to when we create the
> IBSS. You seem to be confusing basic and mandatory rates or something
> else that I can't make sense of. It's NOT "clearly wrong".

ok, i agree that we are probably allowed to choose any basic rates when we 
create an IBSS - but the question is: why would we want to use lower rates?

does it not make sense to use all mandatory rates as basic rates?

as a side note: the reason i am concerned about the basic rates is that when 
we use RTC/CTS (which are sent at a basic rate) thruput gets quite low when 
the basic rates are (too?) low. this is a tradeoff between reliability and 
speed - and probably should be user configurable. so maybe instead of adding a 
"g-only" flag to ibss creation, should i add an iw command for setting the 
basic rates? what do you think about that?

bruno

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-13  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-12  7:36 [PATCH 1/2] mac80211: Use G mandatory rates in 2GHz band Bruno Randolf
2010-04-12  7:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] mac80211: Initialize IBSS basic rates according to band Bruno Randolf
2010-04-12  7:41   ` Johannes Berg
2010-04-12  7:58     ` Bruno Randolf
2010-04-12  8:10       ` Johannes Berg
2010-04-12  8:34         ` Bruno Randolf
2010-04-12  8:40           ` Johannes Berg
2010-04-13  0:16             ` Bruno Randolf
2010-04-13  7:21               ` Johannes Berg
2010-04-13  7:56                 ` Bruno Randolf [this message]
2010-04-12  7:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] mac80211: Use G mandatory rates in 2GHz band Johannes Berg

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