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From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Jussi Kivilinna <jussi.kivilinna@mbnet.fi>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	David Quan <David.Quan@atheros.com>,
	Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@bombadil.infradead.org>,
	ath5k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan May <jonathan.may@atheros.com>,
	Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] [PATCH v2] ath5k: disable ASPM
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:39:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100623143940.GA5424@sig21.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimsEkff4sMiMB_VyWqkZOjy9PIuJ4AiC95PASOZ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:38:03PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Does CONFIG_PCIEASPM provide a way for the user to modifiy
> >> the settings at runtime?
> >
> > You can tune ASPM settings at runtime, regardless of CONFIG_PCIEASPM. See:
> >
> > http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/mcgrof/aspm/enable-aspm
> > http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/ASPM
> >
> >> I have a Samsung N130 netbook which has a BIOS setting
> >> called "CPU Power Saving Mode".  When enabled it activates
> >> ASPM L1 and L0s for the ethernet chip (Realtek RTL8102e, 100Mbit)
> >> and the PCIE bridge (with the BIOS setting off it's just L1).
> >> The result is that the ethernet througput is reduced to 25Mbit/s.
> >
> > L0s is not going to buy you much gains, getting at least L1 will
> > however. L0s is just a further enhancement. I recommend you test by
> > enabling L1 and L0s, check how longer your battery lasts and then test
> > again with just L1. Then test without both L1 and L0s.
> 
> So defaults should always be sane and you should not have to play with
> this stuff, unless you're a hacker, or are testing something for
> development purposes. Tweaking ASPM settings is not something a user
> should have to worry about. Period.

OK, let me put the question another way:

If enabling ASPM comes with a performance penalty (which is not unexpected,
there is usually a tradeoff between performance and power consumption),
do you think a boot time option (pcie_aspm=) or compile time option
(CONFIG_PCIEASPM) is the right user interface?


But meanwhile I found that CONFIG_PCIEASPM has a runtime
interface, /sys/module/pcie_aspm/parameters/policy.
http://lwn.net/Articles/266585/

I have not tested it on my N130 yet.


Johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-23 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-28 10:09 [PATCH] ath5k: disable ASPM Jussi Kivilinna
2010-05-28 16:19 ` [ath5k-devel] " Pavel Roskin
2010-05-28 18:25   ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-05-28 20:27     ` Pavel Roskin
2010-05-31  1:06       ` Bruno Randolf
2010-06-01 20:43         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-28 17:40 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-28 18:20   ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-17 20:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-18  8:20   ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-18  9:09     ` [ath5k-devel] " RHS Linux User
2010-06-18 10:15     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-18 10:49       ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-18 11:05         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-18 13:59           ` Bob Copeland
2010-06-18 14:11             ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-19  7:49               ` [PATCH v2] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-19 12:38                 ` Bob Copeland
2010-06-19 13:02                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-19 15:32                     ` [PATCH v3] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 20:13                       ` [ath5k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 20:49                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 21:06                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 21:14                             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:20                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:24                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:29                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 21:17                             ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 21:25                               ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:15                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:21                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:26                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:29                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:31                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:33                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:43                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:50                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-27  9:35                                                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-27 15:57                                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-28 23:48                                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-29  0:06                                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:13                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:56                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-20  8:13                 ` [ath5k-devel] [PATCH v2] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-20 11:18                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-20 18:04                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-21  5:53                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-21 20:01                       ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-21 20:16                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-21 20:33                         ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-21 20:39                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 16:31                             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 16:48                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 16:52                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 17:17                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 17:25                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 17:40                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 17:50                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 18:28                                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 18:44                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 19:13                                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 19:31                                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-06-22 19:37                                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 19:38                                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-23 14:39                                                     ` Johannes Stezenbach [this message]
2010-06-23 16:28                                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-23 19:07                                                         ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-06-23 19:23                                                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-06-21 20:37                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-21 23:55                           ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 16:34 ` [PATCH] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 18:37   ` John W. Linville
2010-07-26 18:41   ` [ath5k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez

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