linux-wireless.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Jussi Kivilinna <jussi.kivilinna@mbnet.fi>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	David Quan <David.Quan@atheros.com>,
	Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@bombadil.infradead.org>,
	ath5k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan May <jonathan.may@atheros.com>,
	Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] [PATCH v2] ath5k: disable ASPM
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:07:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100623190743.GA22855@sig21.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilyQB-q8Xf9Mu3F5SnKbRqbBuLjbdx8EcyCt_0v@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:28:57AM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net> wrote:
> >
> > If enabling ASPM comes with a performance penalty (which is not unexpected,
> > there is usually a tradeoff between performance and power consumption),
> > do you think a boot time option (pcie_aspm=) or compile time option
> > (CONFIG_PCIEASPM) is the right user interface?
> >
> >
> > But meanwhile I found that CONFIG_PCIEASPM has a runtime
> > interface, /sys/module/pcie_aspm/parameters/policy.
> > http://lwn.net/Articles/266585/
> 
> Same thing, its to be used by developers not users, damn it we should
> just remove this crap.

Hopefully I got at least the message across that there is
a good reason to have an interface where the user can
select the ASPM policy?

If your answer is "reboot and change the BIOS setting" then
you didn't get what I was talking about _at all_.

Also, having now briefly looked at pcie/aspm.c, I do not share your
opinion that it is crap, except maybe for the force enable.
If I read it correctly it will by default keep the BIOS settings,
but offers a per-device sysfs attribute to change the ASPM link
state, and it seems to do sanity checking, and takes care that
both ends of the link agree.

(disclaimer: I haven't tested any of it, only briefly looked at the code)


Johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-23 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-28 10:09 [PATCH] ath5k: disable ASPM Jussi Kivilinna
2010-05-28 16:19 ` [ath5k-devel] " Pavel Roskin
2010-05-28 18:25   ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-05-28 20:27     ` Pavel Roskin
2010-05-31  1:06       ` Bruno Randolf
2010-06-01 20:43         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-28 17:40 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-05-28 18:20   ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-17 20:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-18  8:20   ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-18  9:09     ` [ath5k-devel] " RHS Linux User
2010-06-18 10:15     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-18 10:49       ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-18 11:05         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-18 13:59           ` Bob Copeland
2010-06-18 14:11             ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-19  7:49               ` [PATCH v2] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-19 12:38                 ` Bob Copeland
2010-06-19 13:02                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-19 15:32                     ` [PATCH v3] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 20:13                       ` [ath5k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 20:49                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 21:06                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 21:14                             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:20                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:24                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:29                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 21:17                             ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 21:25                               ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:15                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:21                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:26                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:29                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:31                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:33                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-26 22:43                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:50                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2010-07-27  9:35                                                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-27 15:57                                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-28 23:48                                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-29  0:06                                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:13                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-07-26 22:56                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-20  8:13                 ` [ath5k-devel] [PATCH v2] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-20 11:18                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-20 18:04                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-21  5:53                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-21 20:01                       ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-21 20:16                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-21 20:33                         ` Jussi Kivilinna
2010-06-21 20:39                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 16:31                             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 16:48                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 16:52                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 17:17                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 17:25                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 17:40                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 17:50                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 18:28                                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 18:44                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-06-22 19:13                                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 19:31                                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-06-22 19:37                                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-22 19:38                                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-23 14:39                                                     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-06-23 16:28                                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-23 19:07                                                         ` Johannes Stezenbach [this message]
2010-06-23 19:23                                                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-06-21 20:37                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-06-21 23:55                           ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 16:34 ` [PATCH] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 18:37   ` John W. Linville
2010-07-26 18:41   ` [ath5k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20100623190743.GA22855@sig21.net \
    --to=js@sig21.net \
    --cc=David.Quan@atheros.com \
    --cc=ath5k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net \
    --cc=jonathan.may@atheros.com \
    --cc=jussi.kivilinna@mbnet.fi \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=maximlevitsky@gmail.com \
    --cc=mcgrof@bombadil.infradead.org \
    --cc=mcgrof@gmail.com \
    --cc=me@bobcopeland.com \
    --cc=mjg59@srcf.ucam.org \
    --cc=tim.gardner@canonical.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).