From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>
Cc: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"George Kashperko" <george@znau.edu.ua>,
"Hauke Mehrtens" <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
"Russell King" <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"Jonas Gorski" <jonas.gorski@gmail.com>,
"b43-dev@lists.infradead.org" <b43-dev@lists.infradead.org>,
"Andy Botting" <andy@andybotting.com>,
"Larry Finger" <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: Could I (ab)use bus (struct bus_type) for virtual Broadcom bus?
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:02:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110419140257.GA20456@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.vt6ufu1n3ri7v4@arend-laptop>
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 03:58:32PM +0200, Arend van Spriel wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:38:12 +0200, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Rafał,
>
> As you probably expected I tried to integrate and use your bcmai/bcmaxi/?
> driver with our brcm80211 driver (making progress). In the mean time
> I tried to follow the discussions going on, but I am still catching
> up.
>
> >Compare this to the PCI bus type, which essentially deals with devices
> >that have a PCI configuration space that contains generic (irq, memory,
> >vendor/device ID, ...) registers along with device specific registers.
>
> How much alike is the (BCM)AXI bus type? My assumption was that each
> registered PCI device is handled by a single driver module. In the
> current(?) bcmai implementation each device driver is called with the
> appropriate device structure reference, but it will also have the bus
> structure reference and through that can also access other cores on the
> (bcm)axi bus. This seems to me a potential issue when there are no
> synchronization mechanisms in place (whether in a SoC configuration or
> PCI-hosted). Does the PCI bus type allow driver for device A access
> device B?
>
> >A new bus_type really only makes sense if you expect a lot of devices
> >to use this and you want to have the probing in the bus. If you only
> >want to have a way to enumerate devices that get created by the
> >parent driver, you can also use platform devices.
>
> The main assumption of the (bcm)axi driver seems to be that each core can
> be considered as a device. Correct me if I am wrong, but I consider a
> device to be an entity providing a particular system function. So an
> ethernet device provides ethernet connectivity function, a mixer device
> provides sound mixing function, and so on. The cores within a chip are not
> always self-contained like this. To clarify let's say a system function is
> realized by programming core A, core B, and finally trigger core A to set
> the function in motion. This implies the need of coordination between the
> programming steps on those cores.
>
> Is my view on what is a device wrong? Does a platform device differ in
> this respect from a regular device?
Please don't use a platform device, unless there is no other way for
your device to work. For this device, you are connected to the PCI bus,
so a platform device does not make sense at all.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-19 14:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-14 11:28 Could I (ab)use bus (struct bus_type) for virtual Broadcom bus? Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-14 11:43 ` George Kashperko
2011-04-14 12:04 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-14 12:34 ` Hauke Mehrtens
2011-04-14 13:07 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-14 13:15 ` George Kashperko
2011-04-14 13:45 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-15 18:36 ` George Kashperko
2011-04-15 19:21 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-15 19:42 ` George Kashperko
2011-04-15 19:52 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-15 19:56 ` Peter Stuge
2011-04-16 14:00 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-16 14:13 ` Jonas Gorski
2011-04-15 19:50 ` George Kashperko
2011-04-17 17:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-18 12:19 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-18 14:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-18 14:31 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-18 15:35 ` George Kashperko
2011-04-18 15:53 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-18 16:48 ` George Kashperko
2011-04-19 13:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 13:58 ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-19 14:02 ` Greg KH [this message]
2011-04-20 6:39 ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-20 6:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 14:20 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-19 14:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-20 7:16 ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-20 7:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-20 7:57 ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-20 7:29 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-05-05 12:33 ` AXI driver status => previously: " Arend van Spriel
2011-05-05 12:48 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-05-05 12:54 ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-14 13:03 ` George Kashperko
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