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From: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>
To: Ignacy Gawedzki <i@lri.fr>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Stephen.Chen@atheros.com
Subject: Re: WPA in ad-hoc mode with carl9170
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:05:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201105141305.06659.chunkeey@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110514094102.GA31275@zenon.in.qult.net>

On Saturday 14 May 2011 11:41:02 Ignacy Gawedzki wrote:
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 01:13:09AM +0200, thus spake Christian Lamparter:
> > On Saturday 14 May 2011 00:21:41 Ignacy Gawedzki wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:31:47PM +0200, thus spake Christian Lamparter:
> > > > Note: there's a special bit [RX_MAC_CONTROL - bit 6] which instructs the key
> > > > cache controller to do the "key security settings" lookup with addr2 for all
> > > > bc/mc frames. If we enable this bit and modify carl9170_op_set_key to set the
> > > > per station gtk correctly [i.e.: use sta->addr as MAC and put the keys into
> > > > the per-sta space [0-63?]] we should be able to enable PER_STA_GTK...
> > > > although the driver will be restricted to a single vif [I think].
> > > 
> > > If I understand correctly, by PER_STA_GTK you mean a different encryption key
> > > for each one-hop neighbor.  It happens to be unnecessary in my case as one
> > > "ad-hoc-global" encryption key would be enough.
> > yes, but AFAIK that's not how it works. There's no "global" encryption key see
> > 802.11-2007 8.4.9 RSNA key management in an IBSS: 
> > "Each Authenticator generates its own GTK and uses either the 4-Way Handshake
> > or Group Key Handshake to transfer the GTK to other STAs with whom it has
> > completed a 4-Way Handshake."
> 
> Okay, I suppose I didn't understand correctly after all.  What you mean by
> PER_STA_GTK is a different *decryption* key per station (one-hop neighbor),
> right?  The encryption key is the GTK and any receiving station supposed to be
> able to decrypt the frames must have gone through the 4-way handshake with the
> sending station somehow.
> 
> In my case, it would be nice to be able to tell the driver to use the
> encryption key for decryption as well and bypass the need to go through the
> handshake.  But I assume this is not something worth implementing if it's not
> there already and not specified by the standard anyway.
Oh, don't let the "RX_MAC_CONTROL" fool you, this is just Atheros' name
for the register. They really say "Setting this bit instructs the Key Cache controller
to send address2 of multicast/broadcast frames to be searched for user and
key security settings". If it would only affect decryption, the would have written
"*RxMac* Key Cache controller" instead... or Stephen, can you comment on this?
[We are talking about Address: 0x1c3c40 - Bit 6] 

Regards,
	Christian

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-14 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-13 16:01 WPA in ad-hoc mode with carl9170 Ignacy Gawedzki
2011-05-13 16:39 ` Brian Prodoehl
2011-05-13 17:40   ` Ignacy Gawedzki
2011-05-13 20:31     ` Christian Lamparter
2011-05-13 21:30       ` Christian Lamparter
2011-05-13 22:29         ` Ignacy Gawedzki
2011-05-13 22:21       ` Ignacy Gawedzki
2011-05-13 23:13         ` Christian Lamparter
2011-05-14  9:41           ` Ignacy Gawedzki
2011-05-14 11:05             ` Christian Lamparter [this message]
2011-05-14 15:38         ` WPA in ad-hoc mode (was: ...with carl9170) Ignacy Gawedzki

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