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From: Simon Wunderlich <simon.wunderlich@s2003.tu-chemnitz.de>
To: Jonathan Bither <jonbither@gmail.com>
Cc: Simon Wunderlich <simon.wunderlich@s2003.tu-chemnitz.de>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Add spectral scan support for Atheros AR92xx/AR93xx
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:37:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121128103710.GA5284@pandem0nium> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50B52A33.3060900@gmail.com>

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Hello Johnathan,

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 04:01:39PM -0500, Jonathan Bither wrote:
> Hi Simon,
> 
> On 11/27/2012 03:32 PM, Simon Wunderlich wrote:
> >On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:49:52PM +0100, Simon Wunderlich wrote:
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>The goal of this was to create the spectral scan feature based on public
> >>information, so the results are probably not optimal yet, but I hope that
> >>this will help to move Qualcomm/Atheros disclosing some information (this seems
> >>to be planned anyway[2]). Otherwise, maybe other people can help
> >>reverse-engineering this. :)
> >Just to clarify: I don't mean anyone should disassemble proprietary object files
> >or use proprietary source code and re-use these findings without permission to
> >create this feature - this would probably be illegal anyway.
> >
> >By reverse-engineering, I mean we can already dump data spectral scan data with
> >this patchset, but the hard part is to interpret this data correctly - as you'll
> >find in the patches, there are a lot of bits which we don't know what they
> >mean, and maybe there is even more info hidden in these bits. I've uploaded
> >some samples taken on my hardware to the github repo, so anyone can use my
> >program, matlab, or just stare at these heaps of bytes to find some patterns and
> >try to interpret it. Actually I was just staring at the bytes myself and wrote
> >this visualizer to get a better idea what they could mean.
> >
> >Of course, if we can some docs or support from QCA officially, this would be even
> >better. :)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >	Simon
> A search brought me to their patent application. The Drawings on
> their patent application contain some more information on the signal
> classifications. Hopefully this will be able to help you or someone
> else.
> 
> http://www.google.com/patents/US7929508
> 

thanks for pointing that out! This doc gives a pretty good general idea
how things are working, although it isn't too helpful in details. It also
describes some pattern matching related things.

If you anyone is interested in the pattern matching things, also the
airshark paper is definitely worth to be read:

http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~suman/pubs/airshark.pdf
(some AR9280 details are to be found at section 3.1)

Cheers,
	Simon

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      reply	other threads:[~2012-11-28 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-27 19:01 [RFC 0/3] Add spectral scan support for Atheros AR92xx/AR93xx Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 19:01 ` [RFC 1/3] nl80211: add spec scan flag Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-28 12:35   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-28 12:43     ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-28 15:19       ` Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-28 15:29         ` [ath9k-devel] " Malinen, Jouni
2012-11-28 16:12           ` Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-28 16:49             ` Malinen, Jouni
2012-11-28 16:57               ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-28 17:06                 ` Malinen, Jouni
2012-11-28 17:09                   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-28 16:26         ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-28 19:39           ` Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 19:01 ` [RFC 2/3] mac80211: add spectral_scan function, hook it up in scanning Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 19:01 ` [RFC 3/3] ath9k: add spectral scan feature Simon Wunderlich
2012-12-01  4:00   ` Adrian Chadd
2012-12-05 10:40     ` Simon Wunderlich
2012-12-05 11:38       ` Felix Fietkau
2012-12-05 12:05         ` Adrian Chadd
2012-12-17 20:08           ` Adrian Chadd
2012-11-27 19:01 ` [RFC] iw: add spectral scan attribute to scan function Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 19:16 ` [RFC 0/3] Add spectral scan support for Atheros AR92xx/AR93xx Martin Schleier
2012-11-27 19:49   ` Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 20:32     ` Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 21:01       ` Jonathan Bither
2012-11-28 10:37         ` Simon Wunderlich [this message]

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