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From: "Michael Büsch" <m@bues.ch>
To: "Joshua Peisach" <jpeisach@ubuntu.com>
Cc: "Alessio Ferri" <alessio.ferri@mythread.it>,
	<linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>, <b43-dev@lists.infradead.org>,
	<kvalo@kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"b43-dev" <b43-dev-bounces@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] b43: complete N-PHY rev 8 + radio 2057 rev 8 support
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 21:52:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260519215244.2a0d2b29@barney> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DIMWK04RLFCG.17KT0R0YCUMRW@ubuntu.com>

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On Tue, 19 May 2026 15:32:44 -0400
"Joshua Peisach" <jpeisach@ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Tue May 19, 2026 at 11:58 AM EDT, Michael Büsch wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 May 2026 03:49:33 +0200
> > Alessio Ferri <alessio.ferri@mythread.it> wrote:
> >
> > In general this looks Ok.
> > From the style I assume that this is AI generated, right?
> > If so, can you tell us a bit more about the inputs used for the AI?
> > What information is this implementation based on?  
> 
> So... awkward question.

Why?

> Wasn't there just a conversation[1] about the
> future development of this module, that was left off at "don't touch it
> unless you're going to thouroughly test this",

Sure. That's why I ask about the development methods used.

> and now we are going to have a *LLM* work on this?

I don't care whether code was generated with an LLM or not.
What matters is the development methods used.

Changed must be based on actual correct knowledge (e.g. reverse engineering).
Just asking an LLM to do the change without putting that knowledge in is not Ok.
Changes must be tested.
Changes must have a real benefit.
Changes should be low risk, if they can't be tested on all hardware right away.
etc. etc.

Most of this patch set looks to be low risk, because it only seems to
touch code paths for core revisions that were previously unimplemented.

But I'm unsure and I can't remember all the details.
This is why I asked about the development methods used.

What would be Ok? Using an LLM to generate a fully functional and well
tested change from reverse engineered information.

What would not be Ok? Asking an LLM to change the driver just for the
sake of changing it or "cleaning it up". Or using an LLM to make
changes from hallucinated "specifications".


Btw, this looks to be the corresponding tool PR for this change, I guess:
https://github.com/mbuesch/b43-tools/pull/10


-- 
Michael Büsch
https://bues.ch/

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-19 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-18  1:49 [PATCH 0/6] b43: complete N-PHY rev 8 + radio 2057 rev 8 support Alessio Ferri
2026-05-18  1:50 ` [PATCH 1/6] b43: add d11 core revision 0x16 to id table Alessio Ferri
2026-05-18  1:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] b43: route d11 corerev 22 to 24-bit indirect radio access Alessio Ferri
2026-05-18  1:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] b43: support radio 2057 rev 8 Alessio Ferri
2026-05-18  1:53 ` [PATCH 4/6] b43: add IPA TX gain table for N-PHY r8 + radio 2057 r8 Alessio Ferri
2026-05-18  1:54 ` [PATCH 5/6] b43: add channel info " Alessio Ferri
2026-05-18  1:54 ` [PATCH 6/6] b43: add RF power offset " Alessio Ferri
2026-05-19 15:58 ` [PATCH 0/6] b43: complete N-PHY rev 8 + radio 2057 rev 8 support Michael Büsch
2026-05-19 19:32   ` Joshua Peisach
2026-05-19 19:52     ` Michael Büsch [this message]
2026-05-19 23:13       ` Joshua Peisach
2026-05-19 21:02   ` Alessio Ferri
2026-05-20 11:06     ` Johannes Berg
2026-05-20 21:25       ` Alessio Ferri
2026-05-20 23:16       ` Alessio Ferri

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