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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 00/12] wifi: AP side locking improvements
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 2026 23:40:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261004214504.1636783-14-johannes@sipsolutions.net> (raw)

This obviously goes on top of my (fixed) RTNL redux series.

The idea here is that wiphy mutex can be held for quite a bit
of time (e.g. waiting for firmware), but beacon updates (e.g.
with the critical update design I had proposed a long while
back) and other things should be fast.

So with this not all things require wiphy mutex. These are:

 - beacon and related template updates
   (this one needs driver opt-in),
 - mgmt frame TX,
 - control port TX, and
 - peer probe.

This does make the implementation slightly more complex, but
the added complexity is almost entirely in mac80211 (and some
in cfg80211), unless a driver wants to opt in to unlocked
beacon/template updates, which it has to implement itself for
obvious reasons.

I think we probably want this even without the critical update
design we're still debating, but I thought I'd throw this out
here because a lot of the discussion has been focused on the
latencies throughout the stack, and I never thought they were
fundamental. QED ;-)

johannes


             reply	other threads:[~2026-10-04 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-04 21:40 Johannes Berg [this message]
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] wifi: mac80211: protect AP template pointers with a spinlock Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] wifi: nl80211: add NL80211_CMD_UPDATE_BEACON Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] wifi: mac80211: implement lockless beacon updates Johannes Berg
2026-10-09 16:05   ` Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] wifi: mac80211_hwsim: support " Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] wifi: cfg80211: make cookie counter atomic Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] wifi: nl80211: allow mgmt frame TX without wiphy mutex Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] wifi: mac80211: refactor mgmt frames TX Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] wifi: mac80211: implement mgmt_tx_unlocked() Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] wifi: mac80211: don't require wiphy mutex for probe_peer Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] wifi: nl80211: probe peers without wiphy mutex Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] wifi: mac80211: don't require wiphy mutex for control port TX Johannes Berg
2026-10-04 21:40 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] wifi: nl80211: transmit control port frames without wiphy mutex Johannes Berg
2026-10-05  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] wifi: AP side locking improvements Johannes Berg
2026-10-06  2:05 ` Jeff Johnson
2026-10-06  7:14   ` Johannes Berg
2026-10-06  7:55     ` Johannes Berg

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