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* [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan
@ 2026-03-15 22:56 Masi Osmani
  2026-03-21 21:58 ` Christian Lamparter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Masi Osmani @ 2026-03-15 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: chunkeey; +Cc: linux-wireless, Masi Osmani

The carl9170 relies on mac80211 software scanning because it does not
implement a hw_scan callback.  During a scan, mac80211 iterates all
supported channels across both bands, calling carl9170_op_config()
with IEEE80211_CONF_CHANGE_CHANNEL for each one.

Every channel change triggers a full baseband cold reset, RF bank
re-initialisation and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT command
with a 200 ms timeout.  Cross-band switches (2.4 GHz <-> 5 GHz) are
especially expensive and error-prone: the AGC calibration frequently
times out (firmware returns error code 2), leaving the PHY in a
degraded state.  Subsequent channel changes -- even within the same
band -- then also fail, and after three consecutive failures the
driver restarts the device, causing a multi-second connectivity gap.

When the adapter is associated on a specific band, scanning channels
on the other band produces no useful roaming candidates for the
current BSS.  Add sw_scan_start/sw_scan_complete callbacks to track
the scanning state and skip cross-band channel changes while a
software scan is in progress.  Intentional cross-band association
changes (e.g. roaming from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz on a dual-band SSID)
are not affected because they occur outside the scanning window.

Tested on Fritz\!WLAN N (AR9170) with 2.4 GHz association and
concurrent full-band scans: no channel change failures, no device
restarts, no PHY corruption.

Signed-off-by: Masi Osmani <mas-i@hotmail.de>
---
 drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h |  1 +
 drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c     | 42 +++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 43 insertions(+)

--- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h	2026-03-15 23:51:23.598565789 +0100
+++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h	2026-03-15 23:51:39.769123563 +0100
@@ -333,6 +333,7 @@ struct ar9170 {
 	/* PHY */
 	struct ieee80211_channel *channel;
 	unsigned int num_channels;
+	bool scanning;
 	int noise[4];
 	unsigned int chan_fail;
 	unsigned int total_chan_fail;
--- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c	2026-03-15 23:51:23.597355728 +0100
+++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c	2026-03-15 23:52:02.845563524 +0100
@@ -916,6 +916,33 @@ static int carl9170_op_config(struct iee
 		enum nl80211_channel_type channel_type =
 			cfg80211_get_chandef_type(&hw->conf.chandef);
 
+		/*
+		 * Skip cross-band channel changes during software scan.
+		 *
+		 * mac80211 sw_scan iterates all channels including the
+		 * other band.  Each channel change requires a full BB
+		 * cold reset and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT
+		 * command (200 ms timeout).  Cross-band switches
+		 * frequently cause AGC calibration timeouts (firmware
+		 * returns error 2), leaving the PHY in a degraded state
+		 * that cascades into failures on subsequent intra-band
+		 * channel changes and ultimately triggers a device
+		 * restart after three consecutive failures.
+		 *
+		 * When associated, scanning the other band yields no
+		 * useful roaming candidates for the current BSS.  Skip
+		 * the channel change so mac80211 advances to the next
+		 * scan channel harmlessly.
+		 */
+		if (ar->scanning && ar->channel &&
+		    hw->conf.chandef.chan->band != ar->channel->band) {
+			wiphy_dbg(ar->hw->wiphy,
+				  "skip cross-band scan: %d MHz -> %d MHz\n",
+				  ar->channel->center_freq,
+				  hw->conf.chandef.chan->center_freq);
+			goto out;
+		}
+
 		/* adjust slot time for 5 GHz */
 		err = carl9170_set_slot_time(ar);
 		if (err)
@@ -954,6 +981,27 @@ out:
 	return err;
 }
 
+static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_start(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
+				      struct ieee80211_vif *vif,
+				      const u8 *mac_addr)
+{
+	struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
+
+	mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
+	ar->scanning = true;
+	mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
+}
+
+static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
+					 struct ieee80211_vif *vif)
+{
+	struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
+
+	mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
+	ar->scanning = false;
+	mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
+}
+
 static u64 carl9170_op_prepare_multicast(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
 					 struct netdev_hw_addr_list *mc_list)
 {
@@ -1723,6 +1771,8 @@ static const struct ieee80211_ops carl91
 	.add_interface		= carl9170_op_add_interface,
 	.remove_interface	= carl9170_op_remove_interface,
 	.config			= carl9170_op_config,
+	.sw_scan_start		= carl9170_op_sw_scan_start,
+	.sw_scan_complete	= carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete,
 	.prepare_multicast	= carl9170_op_prepare_multicast,
 	.configure_filter	= carl9170_op_configure_filter,
 	.conf_tx		= carl9170_op_conf_tx,

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread

* [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan
@ 2026-03-17  9:10 Masi Osmani
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Masi Osmani @ 2026-03-17  9:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Lamparter; +Cc: linux-wireless, Masi Osmani

The carl9170 relies on mac80211 software scanning because it does not
implement a hw_scan callback.  During a scan, mac80211 iterates all
supported channels across both bands, calling carl9170_op_config()
with IEEE80211_CONF_CHANGE_CHANNEL for each one.

Every channel change triggers a full baseband cold reset, RF bank
re-initialisation and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT command
with a 200 ms timeout.  Cross-band switches (2.4 GHz <-> 5 GHz) are
especially expensive and error-prone: the AGC calibration frequently
times out (firmware returns error code 2), leaving the PHY in a
degraded state.  Subsequent channel changes -- even within the same
band -- then also fail, and after three consecutive failures the
driver restarts the device, causing a multi-second connectivity gap.

When the adapter is associated on a specific band, scanning channels
on the other band produces no useful roaming candidates for the
current BSS.  Add sw_scan_start/sw_scan_complete callbacks to track
the scanning state and skip cross-band channel changes while a
software scan is in progress.  Intentional cross-band association
changes (e.g. roaming from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz on a dual-band SSID)
are not affected because they occur outside the scanning window.

Tested on Fritz\!WLAN N (AR9170) with 2.4 GHz association and
concurrent full-band scans: no channel change failures, no device
restarts, no PHY corruption.

Signed-off-by: Masi Osmani <mas-i@hotmail.de>
---
 drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h |  1 +
 drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c     | 42 +++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 43 insertions(+)

--- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h	2026-03-15 23:51:23.598565789 +0100
+++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h	2026-03-15 23:51:39.769123563 +0100
@@ -333,6 +333,7 @@ struct ar9170 {
 	/* PHY */
 	struct ieee80211_channel *channel;
 	unsigned int num_channels;
+	bool scanning;
 	int noise[4];
 	unsigned int chan_fail;
 	unsigned int total_chan_fail;
--- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c	2026-03-15 23:51:23.597355728 +0100
+++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c	2026-03-15 23:52:02.845563524 +0100
@@ -916,6 +916,33 @@ static int carl9170_op_config(struct iee
 		enum nl80211_channel_type channel_type =
 			cfg80211_get_chandef_type(&hw->conf.chandef);
 
+		/*
+		 * Skip cross-band channel changes during software scan.
+		 *
+		 * mac80211 sw_scan iterates all channels including the
+		 * other band.  Each channel change requires a full BB
+		 * cold reset and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT
+		 * command (200 ms timeout).  Cross-band switches
+		 * frequently cause AGC calibration timeouts (firmware
+		 * returns error 2), leaving the PHY in a degraded state
+		 * that cascades into failures on subsequent intra-band
+		 * channel changes and ultimately triggers a device
+		 * restart after three consecutive failures.
+		 *
+		 * When associated, scanning the other band yields no
+		 * useful roaming candidates for the current BSS.  Skip
+		 * the channel change so mac80211 advances to the next
+		 * scan channel harmlessly.
+		 */
+		if (ar->scanning && ar->channel &&
+		    hw->conf.chandef.chan->band != ar->channel->band) {
+			wiphy_dbg(ar->hw->wiphy,
+				  "skip cross-band scan: %d MHz -> %d MHz\n",
+				  ar->channel->center_freq,
+				  hw->conf.chandef.chan->center_freq);
+			goto out;
+		}
+
 		/* adjust slot time for 5 GHz */
 		err = carl9170_set_slot_time(ar);
 		if (err)
@@ -954,6 +981,27 @@ out:
 	return err;
 }
 
+static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_start(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
+				      struct ieee80211_vif *vif,
+				      const u8 *mac_addr)
+{
+	struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
+
+	mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
+	ar->scanning = true;
+	mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
+}
+
+static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
+					 struct ieee80211_vif *vif)
+{
+	struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
+
+	mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
+	ar->scanning = false;
+	mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
+}
+
 static u64 carl9170_op_prepare_multicast(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
 					 struct netdev_hw_addr_list *mc_list)
 {
@@ -1723,6 +1771,8 @@ static const struct ieee80211_ops carl91
 	.add_interface		= carl9170_op_add_interface,
 	.remove_interface	= carl9170_op_remove_interface,
 	.config			= carl9170_op_config,
+	.sw_scan_start		= carl9170_op_sw_scan_start,
+	.sw_scan_complete	= carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete,
 	.prepare_multicast	= carl9170_op_prepare_multicast,
 	.configure_filter	= carl9170_op_configure_filter,
 	.conf_tx		= carl9170_op_conf_tx,

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan
  2026-03-15 22:56 [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan Masi Osmani
@ 2026-03-21 21:58 ` Christian Lamparter
  2026-03-23  8:17   ` Johannes Berg
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Christian Lamparter @ 2026-03-21 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Masi Osmani; +Cc: linux-wireless, Johannes Berg

On 3/15/26 11:56 PM, Masi Osmani wrote:
> The carl9170 relies on mac80211 software scanning because it does not
> implement a hw_scan callback.  During a scan, mac80211 iterates all
> supported channels across both bands, calling carl9170_op_config()
> with IEEE80211_CONF_CHANGE_CHANNEL for each one.
> 
> Every channel change triggers a full baseband cold reset, RF bank
> re-initialisation and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT command
> with a 200 ms timeout.  Cross-band switches (2.4 GHz <-> 5 GHz) are
> especially expensive and error-prone: the AGC calibration frequently
> times out (firmware returns error code 2), leaving the PHY in a
> degraded state.  Subsequent channel changes -- even within the same
> band -- then also fail, and after three consecutive failures the
> driver restarts the device, causing a multi-second connectivity gap.
> 
> When the adapter is associated on a specific band, scanning channels
> on the other band produces no useful roaming candidates for the
> current BSS.  Add sw_scan_start/sw_scan_complete callbacks to track
> the scanning state and skip cross-band channel changes while a
> software scan is in progress.  Intentional cross-band association
> changes (e.g. roaming from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz on a dual-band SSID)
> are not affected because they occur outside the scanning window.
> 
> Tested on Fritz\!WLAN N (AR9170) with 2.4 GHz association and
> concurrent full-band scans: no channel change failures, no device
> restarts, no PHY corruption.

Dealing with hardware misbehaving... Yeah!

I always suspected that the reason for this misbehaving are clock glitches.
This is because the whole device gets reclocked when switching between 2.4GHz (44/88MHz)
and 5GHz (40/80MHz) band and also HT40 (88/80MHz) vs HT20/Legacy(40/44MHz) too).

I do see the point here and I can confirm that to this day, this causes the
described annoyances.

@Johannes: Is this "stay within the band" something the driver should do,
or could this be moved up to mac80211/cfg80211?

(The way I did it was with wpa_supplicant since it allows one to specifiy
the scanning frequencies with scan_freq ... or even limit the frequencies
with freq_list. That said, this doesn't work great with NetworkManager
and the likes)

> 
> Signed-off-by: Masi Osmani <mas-i@hotmail.de>
> ---
>   drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h |  1 +
>   drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c     | 42 +++++++++++++++++++
>   2 files changed, 43 insertions(+)
> 
> --- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h	2026-03-15 23:51:23.598565789 +0100
> +++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.h	2026-03-15 23:51:39.769123563 +0100
> @@ -333,6 +333,7 @@ struct ar9170 {
>   	/* PHY */
>   	struct ieee80211_channel *channel;
>   	unsigned int num_channels;
> +	bool scanning;
>   	int noise[4];
>   	unsigned int chan_fail;
>   	unsigned int total_chan_fail;
> --- a/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c	2026-03-15 23:51:23.597355728 +0100
> +++ b/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/main.c	2026-03-15 23:52:02.845563524 +0100
> @@ -916,6 +916,33 @@ static int carl9170_op_config(struct iee
>   		enum nl80211_channel_type channel_type =
>   			cfg80211_get_chandef_type(&hw->conf.chandef);
>   
> +		/*
> +		 * Skip cross-band channel changes during software scan.
> +		 *
> +		 * mac80211 sw_scan iterates all channels including the
> +		 * other band.  Each channel change requires a full BB
> +		 * cold reset and AGC calibration via the firmware RF_INIT
> +		 * command (200 ms timeout).  Cross-band switches
> +		 * frequently cause AGC calibration timeouts (firmware
> +		 * returns error 2), leaving the PHY in a degraded state
> +		 * that cascades into failures on subsequent intra-band
> +		 * channel changes and ultimately triggers a device
> +		 * restart after three consecutive failures.
> +		 *
> +		 * When associated, scanning the other band yields no
> +		 * useful roaming candidates for the current BSS.  Skip
> +		 * the channel change so mac80211 advances to the next
> +		 * scan channel harmlessly.
> +		 */
> +		if (ar->scanning && ar->channel &&
> +		    hw->conf.chandef.chan->band != ar->channel->band) {
> +			wiphy_dbg(ar->hw->wiphy,
> +				  "skip cross-band scan: %d MHz -> %d MHz\n",
> +				  ar->channel->center_freq,
> +				  hw->conf.chandef.chan->center_freq);
> +			goto out;
> +		}
> +
>   		/* adjust slot time for 5 GHz */
>   		err = carl9170_set_slot_time(ar);
>   		if (err)
> @@ -954,6 +981,27 @@ out:
>   	return err;
>   }
>   
> +static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_start(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
> +				      struct ieee80211_vif *vif,
> +				      const u8 *mac_addr)
> +{
> +	struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
> +
> +	mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
> +	ar->scanning = true;
> +	mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
> +}
> +
> +static void carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
> +					 struct ieee80211_vif *vif)
> +{
> +	struct ar9170 *ar = hw->priv;
> +
> +	mutex_lock(&ar->mutex);
> +	ar->scanning = false;
> +	mutex_unlock(&ar->mutex);
> +}
> +
>   static u64 carl9170_op_prepare_multicast(struct ieee80211_hw *hw,
>   					 struct netdev_hw_addr_list *mc_list)
>   {
> @@ -1723,6 +1771,8 @@ static const struct ieee80211_ops carl91
>   	.add_interface		= carl9170_op_add_interface,
>   	.remove_interface	= carl9170_op_remove_interface,
>   	.config			= carl9170_op_config,
> +	.sw_scan_start		= carl9170_op_sw_scan_start,
> +	.sw_scan_complete	= carl9170_op_sw_scan_complete,
>   	.prepare_multicast	= carl9170_op_prepare_multicast,
>   	.configure_filter	= carl9170_op_configure_filter,
>   	.conf_tx		= carl9170_op_conf_tx,


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan
  2026-03-21 21:58 ` Christian Lamparter
@ 2026-03-23  8:17   ` Johannes Berg
  2026-03-23  8:21     ` Johannes Berg
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Berg @ 2026-03-23  8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Lamparter, Masi Osmani; +Cc: linux-wireless

On Sat, 2026-03-21 at 22:58 +0100, Christian Lamparter wrote:
> > 
> > When the adapter is associated on a specific band, scanning channels
> > on the other band produces no useful roaming candidates for the
> > current BSS.

This sentence is so clearly wrong, I don't really even know what to say.

> @Johannes: Is this "stay within the band" something the driver should do,
> or could this be moved up to mac80211/cfg80211?

It's something neither should do.

johannes

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH 11/12] carl9170: skip cross-band channel changes during software scan
  2026-03-23  8:17   ` Johannes Berg
@ 2026-03-23  8:21     ` Johannes Berg
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Berg @ 2026-03-23  8:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Lamparter, Masi Osmani; +Cc: linux-wireless

On Mon, 2026-03-23 at 09:17 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Sat, 2026-03-21 at 22:58 +0100, Christian Lamparter wrote:
> > > 
> > > When the adapter is associated on a specific band, scanning channels
> > > on the other band produces no useful roaming candidates for the
> > > current BSS.
> 
> This sentence is so clearly wrong, I don't really even know what to say.

Well, actually ... I read "current BSS" as "current ESS" since otherwise
the sentence is true but nonsense, since roaming obviously involves
leaving the current BSS and joining a different BSS in the same ESS.

johannes

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread

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