From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>
To: Jeffrey Baker <jwbaker@gmail.com>
Cc: Kalle Valo <kalle.valo@iki.fi>, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ar9170 in AP mode
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:49:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43e72e890911091149nb644643uf6b87291f36914eb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fd145f7d0911091052m187aad9dh6c03f593a2580067@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Baker <jwbaker@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Kalle Valo <kalle.valo@iki.fi> wrote:
>> Holger Schurig <holgerschurig@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>>> How common is the combination of powersaving and mcast in practice?
>>>> Given that quite a few useful scenarios are blocked right now (unless
>>>> you know what to patch), I would at least vote for a config option or a
>>>> module parameter. That gives a chance to warn the user about this
>>>> limitation without locking out people that are no hackers.
>>>
>>> In my case (hand-help devices) it's very common. Without power-save,
>>> the battery would be drained so fast it wouldn't be usable.
>>
>> Yes, just to give a concrete example of n810 wlan idle case
>> (associated, but no data transfered):
>>
>> ps off 7 hours
>> ps on 7 days
>>
>> Huge difference.
>>
>>> And with power-save and an AP that can't handle this, you'd get
>>> weird errors.
>>
>> Exactly. These kinds of errors are very difficult for the users to
>> understand.
>>
>>> So, I personally prefer to have "Do an AP right" or "Don't do it at
>>> all". But please no general enablement.
>>>
>>> But, for example, having some CONFIG_AR9K_AP_MODE depending on
>>> CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL and a bit fat warning would do for me. Hopefully
>>> this would scara away distros, so that they don't turn this on for
>>> there standard kernel :-)
>>
>> I think EXPERIMENTAL is not enough, I would prefer that the user needs
>> to patch the driver to enable it. Or if that's not good enough, then
>> maybe depend on BROKEN.
>
> Is this broken on all ar9k or just the 9170?
Just ar9170.
Luis
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-09 19:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-08 13:29 ar9170 in AP mode Jan Kiszka
2009-11-08 13:38 ` Kalle Valo
2009-11-08 13:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-08 14:01 ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-08 14:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-08 14:56 ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-09 8:16 ` Holger Schurig
2009-11-09 8:37 ` Kalle Valo
2009-11-09 14:14 ` John W. Linville
2009-11-09 21:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-10 10:39 ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-09 18:52 ` Jeffrey Baker
2009-11-09 19:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
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