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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: James Ketrenos <jketreno@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]  Add iwlwifi wireless drivers [part 2/2]
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:05:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <464E233A.6060209@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464E0DB5.5010802@linux.intel.com>

James Ketrenos wrote:
> Randy Dunlap wrote:
>> 2.  Use of bitfields:  bitfields are not (guaranteed to be) portable
>> across a wire interface to some other CPU architecture.
>> Are all bitfield uses always local to the running driver?
>> They should be.
> 
> The bitfields are between the hw/ucode (__le) and the driver.  Are you 
> saying the bitfields won't be compatible if the driver is compiled and 
> running on big endian?  Shouldn't le16_to_cpu() fix that?  I just 
> noticed the types in iwl-4965-hw.h weren't endian specific; I've updated 
> that (u16, u32, u64 -> __le16, __le32, __le64)

Use of bitfields, as defined in the C standard, should be avoided at all 
costs.  It requires you to define structures twice -- once for LE, and 
once for BE.  It generates demonstrably sub-optimal code on all known 
compilers.  And in general, people tend to screw them up.

Drivers should be using bitwise integer math rather than bitfields.

As for u8/u16/u32/u64 integer mixes, you must still pay attention to 
structure layout and compiler padding, in addition to endian issues 
(which are lessened once bitfields are gone).


>> 3.  What are all of those "volatile" C keywords doing in struct
>> iwl_shared?
>> See http://lwn.net/Articles/232961/ : "The trouble with volatile"
> 
> If a reference shared through memory mapped IO with a device that can 
> change the value at any time, doesn't it need to be volatile?  'struct 
> iwl_shared' is allocated with pci_alloc_consistent and the physical 
> address is provided to the hardware for it to update whenever it sees fit.

volatile should not be in your driver at all.

See the innumerable threads on LKML, including one current one.


>> 8.  Too many BUG_ON()s.  Try to recover or return -ERRORs instead.
> 
> I pulled out two that shouldn't have been there.
> 
> The rest are currently there map to bugs which are easily introduced 
> through code changes but which may not cause an immediately visible bug 
> at run-time.  Typically they are placed where an eventual printk() at 
> that location during debugging of a user bug resulted in the critical 
> "ah-ha!" that led to fixing it.  I've added comments to the BUG_ON's 
> that didn't have comments already.
> 
> I suppose we could try and introduce a new driver recovery mechanism 
> that, upon detection, throws a stack trace and then shuts down the 
> driver (vs. throwing a kernel OOPs) requiring user space to unload and 
> reload the driver.  That would still be a sucky situation, but at least 
> it wouldn't cause a system failure requiring a reboot...  does such a 
> mechanism already exist?

In general, you should not be checking for programmer mistakes at every 
level.  Only use BUG_ON() for mistakes that have happened in the past in 
this driver, AND are likely to occur in the future, AND do not cause 
problems easily detectable simply by allowing the code to screw up.


>> 9.  printk() calls should use KERN_* levels.
> Fixed.

dev_xxx stuff is preferred over printk(), actually :)

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-18 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-16 21:45 [PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers James Ketrenos
2007-05-17  1:27 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-17  4:28   ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-17  5:57     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 21:38       ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 19:01   ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 20:57     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-18 20:54       ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 21:06     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-22 18:39       ` John W. Linville
2007-05-22 18:29         ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-17  1:51 ` Michael Wu
2007-05-17  2:56   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-17  3:55     ` Michael Wu
2007-05-17  8:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-22 19:16   ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-22 23:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 21:49       ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-22 23:41         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 22:56           ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-23  0:58             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 18:17               ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-23 19:59                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 19:30                   ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-23  1:06     ` Michael Wu
2007-05-23  1:46       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-17  3:35 ` [PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers [part 2/2] Randy Dunlap
2007-05-17 15:03   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-17 15:05   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-18  7:04     ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-18 20:33   ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 22:05     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-05-18 21:31       ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 22:50         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-18 23:04         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-21 14:56           ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-21 16:26             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-21 16:48               ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-21 18:15                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-21 20:12                   ` Cohen, Guy
2007-05-21 21:02                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 21:10                       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-21 21:43                         ` Cohen, Guy
2007-05-21 22:15                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 21:22                     ` Joerg Mayer
2007-05-21 21:46                       ` Cohen, Guy
2007-05-18 22:13     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-18 23:05 ` [PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-18 23:22   ` Michael Wu
2007-05-22 21:50 ` [PATCH v3] " James Ketrenos
2007-05-23  1:06   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 15:16     ` James Ketrenos

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