From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: James Ketrenos <jketreno@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Michael Wu <flamingice@sourmilk.net>,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:58:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <465391A5.4090608@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46537536.8070500@linux.intel.com>
James Ketrenos wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> James Ketrenos wrote:
>>> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>> James Ketrenos wrote:
>>>>> That said -- if the driver can execute in parallel to the stack for
>>>>> some operations, shouldn't they remain on their own workqueues so
>>>>> the work can be divided up vs. having *everything* routed through
>>>>> one singlethread workqueue?
>>>>
>>>> Just because it -can-, does not mean it should.
>>>>
>>>> Unless there is a -proven- need for the operations to be parallel,
>>>> you should avoid the burden of such complexity.
>>>
>>> There is no additional complexity by having the driver create its own
>>> workqueue; it just calls create_workqueue during probe and
>>> destroy_workqueue during remove.
>>
>> That is obviously false. Ignoring the additional code and memory
>> usage, you must additionally evaluate the potential for deadlocks and
>> races.
>
> So you're saying that by using mac80211's workqueue a driver no longer
> has to worry about any deadlocks or race conditions? That is obviously
> false.
Don't be dense. If two operations are guaranteed to go down the same
pipeline, then there is a clear sequence guarantee that is not present
if operations are [needlessly] parallel.
> I didn't say we can't use mac80211's workqueue if it was
> created/destroyed during alloc/free vs. hw register.
> I asked a question about if work can execute in parallel, shouldn't we
> let it
Without justification for the additional complexity, the answer is no.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-23 0:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-16 21:45 [PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers James Ketrenos
2007-05-17 1:27 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-17 4:28 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-17 5:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 21:38 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 19:01 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 20:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-18 20:54 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 21:06 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-22 18:39 ` John W. Linville
2007-05-22 18:29 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-17 1:51 ` Michael Wu
2007-05-17 2:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-17 3:55 ` Michael Wu
2007-05-17 8:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-22 19:16 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-22 23:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 21:49 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-22 23:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 22:56 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-23 0:58 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-05-23 18:17 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-23 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 19:30 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-23 1:06 ` Michael Wu
2007-05-23 1:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-17 3:35 ` [PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers [part 2/2] Randy Dunlap
2007-05-17 15:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-17 15:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-18 7:04 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-18 20:33 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 22:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-18 21:31 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-18 22:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-18 23:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-21 14:56 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-21 16:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-21 16:48 ` James Ketrenos
2007-05-21 18:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-21 20:12 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-05-21 21:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 21:10 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-21 21:43 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-05-21 22:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 21:22 ` Joerg Mayer
2007-05-21 21:46 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-05-18 22:13 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-18 23:05 ` [PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-18 23:22 ` Michael Wu
2007-05-22 21:50 ` [PATCH v3] " James Ketrenos
2007-05-23 1:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23 15:16 ` James Ketrenos
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