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From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: support for AVM Fritz! WLAN USB in kernel 2.6.25+
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:55:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489242CF.2000100@imap.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080731215055.GB4817@kroah.com>

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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:50:55 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:34:26PM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:

>> Please let's keep the politics out of this. I know who wrote that
>> patch, I know the agenda behind it and the discussion accompanying it.
>> Conversely, I'm sure you know fully well that I have no way of putting
>> that question to any relevant person at AVM, and even if I had, it would
>> achieve exactly nothing at all. I am not interested in such fruitless
>> political discussions. I have a simple question, to which I would like
>> a simple answer.
> 
> There's no "politics" here at all.

Oh, please ... You aren't seriously trying to tell me there's a *technical*
reason for changing EXPORT_SYMBOL to EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, are you?

Again, I am not interested in discussing that decision. It's been taken,
and I accept it. But let's call a spade a spade.

> And why wouldn't you go ask AVM, they are the ones producing the driver
> for this hardware, how could it be our responsibility to get their code
> to work properly, when we have absolutely no way to do so?

That's not true. Reverting commit 782e70c6fc2290a0395850e8e02583b8b62264d8
would be enough. But again, I am not asking for that. My question isn't
about getting AVM's closed source driver to work with kernel 2.6.25+.
I just want to know whether there is an open source alternative, nothing
more.

> This is between you and AVM.  I really suggest contacting the company.
> I have talked to them in the past and they seem willing to help out
> where they can.

Obviously even you weren't able to convince them to convert their driver
for this device to something compatible with post 2.6.24 kernels. How
then could I possibly hope to achieve anything? I have no contractual
relationship with AVM. I don't know anybody in that company. I don't work
for anyone they would recognize. All I can do is contact the regular
consumer support people who don't even know what I am talking about and
keep asking me to boot Windows, where the device obviously works, so all
is well, no? After all, it does say "System requirements: Windows" on the
box.

But all this is just the fruitless discussion I wanted to avoid. With
your kind permission I'll stop this here and concentrate instead on the
subthread which actually deals with my question.

Thanks,
Tilman


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-31 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-31 14:52 Q: support for AVM Fritz! WLAN USB in kernel 2.6.25+ Tilman Schmidt
2008-07-31 15:25 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-31 16:34   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-07-31 16:50     ` John W. Linville
2008-07-31 22:13       ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-07-31 22:43         ` Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
2008-08-01 23:30           ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-08-02  8:28             ` Felipe Balbi
2008-08-02 21:58               ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-08-02 23:12                 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-08-03  0:45                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-08-03  0:57                     ` Felipe Balbi
2008-08-03  3:43                       ` Greg KH
2008-08-03  9:11                         ` Felipe Balbi
2008-08-03 21:10                           ` Kamil Dzida
2008-08-01 19:04         ` Daniel Gimpelevich
2008-07-31 16:38 ` Greg KH
2008-07-31 21:34   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-07-31 21:50     ` Greg KH
2008-07-31 22:55       ` Tilman Schmidt [this message]
2008-07-31 23:26         ` Felipe Balbi
2008-08-01  8:45           ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-08-01  8:50             ` Felipe Balbi
2008-08-01  8:58               ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-08-01  9:05                 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-08-01  9:25                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-08-01  8:45           ` Felipe Balbi

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