From: Richard Farina <sidhayn@gmail.com>
To: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] fix wireless-regdb enforcement oddities
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:54:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49BFB988.8040209@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090317090922.GA2721@jm.kir.nu>
Jouni Malinen wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 07:49:00PM -0400, Richard Farina wrote:
>
>
>> For the sake of sanity, I think that the way rules from wireless-regdb
>> are enforced needs to be changed. An example:
>>
>> country US:
>> (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (3, 17)
>> (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (3, 20), DFS
>>
>> In this case, you will see that I have removed all of the rules that I
>> do not intend to cite to lower the complexity of the ruleset.
>>
>> Take for example, channel 48, center frequency 5240. A standard 20 mhz
>> mode will work as expected, as well as HT40-, however HT40+ cannot be
>> set because it would need to cross the rule boundary. Each line of a
>> regulatory domain section is enforced by itself. Channel 52 has a
>> similiar problem where 20 and HT40+ work but HT40- will not.
>>
>
> Channel 48 with HT40+ would not work regardless of the regulatory rules;
> (48,52) is not one of the allowed HT40 channel pairs. You can use
> (36,40), (44,48), (52,56), and (60,64), but not (40,44), (48,52),
> (56,60). This is not really a regulatory limit but restriction stated in
> IEEE 802.11n Annex J. And same applies to channel 52 with HT40-.
>
> There may be some other examples where the processing of the ruleset
> could be improved, but this particular example does not look like
> something that would benefit much from a change here.
>
>
>> As this specific example includes frequencies in the DFS range, you can
>> obviously see why no one has noticed this failing before. The obviously
>> expected result is that if two rules abut and a channel is requested
>> that stradles them, it should take the most restrictive mix between the
>> two. For instance, if I set channel 48 in HT40+ mode (and we have DFS
>> support) the rule would be enforced as (3, 17), DFS; while HT40- would
>> be enforced as the standard (3, 17).
>>
>
> If the channel pair (48,52) were allowed by IEEE 802.11n and we
> supported DFS, yes, I would agree with this. However, neither of those
> are the case at the moment (and I don't see the former changing in the
> future either).
>
>
Okay, so my example isn't good enough because that specific setup is not
allowed, maybe some later time we can discuss the fact that the rules
really are not enforced as a whole and not argue the semantics of my
specific examples. My eventual goal is to have 1-10,000 in the allowed
rules with a NOTX flag for all the frequencies which are monitor
only...but I suppose for now I'll just use that ugly overlapping
regdomain hack until it starts to bite me. I'm sure overlapping two
rules by 20 mhz couldn't possibly confuse things...
If I have no choice but to write funny rules then so be it, but at least
if I could understand how this is interpreted?
(2402 - 2472 @ 40), (3, 20)
(2457 - 2482 @ 20), (3, 20), PASSIVE-SCAN, NO-IBSS
What rules are applied if I set channel 11 in 10 Mhz mode? Considering
support for using 10 mhz channels is being worked on I'm just kinda
curious. I'm also not 100% sure on the rules but since the way
wireless-regdb/crda currently enforces things will allow you to set
20mhz channels in a 40mhz rule I'm also going to assume that it will
allow 10 and 5 mhz channels to be set too (@40 appears to mean "40 or
less" as far as I understand it).
thanks,
Rick
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-17 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-16 23:49 [RFC] fix wireless-regdb enforcement oddities Richard Farina
2009-03-17 9:09 ` Jouni Malinen
2009-03-17 14:54 ` Richard Farina [this message]
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