From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:28:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2BDCB7.7060104@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090607125715.GC3340@khazad-dum.debian.net>
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>
>> 1) remove rfkill_set_global_sw_state()
>> 2) rfkill devices with NVS can e.g. call rfkill_has_nvs() before
>> registration, setting a flag.
>> 3) the "has NVS" flag is reported by /dev/rfkill, (at least in ADD
>> events, tho it may as well be set in all events)
>> 4) rfkill-input preserves existing behaviour - *if enabled* - by
>> initializing the global state from individual devices which have NVS.
>> (As before, each _type_ of rfkill device has its own global state).
>> 5) rfkill devices with NVS will have their current state preserved,
>> so long as the global state has not yet been set (by userspace or by
>> rfkill-input). Of course userspace can change the state in response
>> to the device being added.
>>
>
> I can agree to that, it will avoid the regression I have been
> complaining about, and seems to address the major complaints against
> what we have now...
>
Yeah, I hope it avoids the objections about NVS in /dev/rfkill. We avoid
the separate NVS operation. And it exports the NVS state through the
specific device it comes from, rather than exporting it as a global state.
So userspace gets more specific information; at the same time the
interface is simpler because the information comes in a single message,
and it's less prescriptive because it doesn't push the idea of global
state(s) quite so much.
> I think it should probably be enhanced (it doesn't have to be enhanced
> _now_, however) to let the core call back into NVS-providing drivers to
> checkpoint NVS state. But that's not something I feel strongly about.
>
Ok. I think that feature would be subject to further debate /
clarification. So I will ignore it and code up the basics outlined above
:-).
> Otherwise, the driver will checkpoint to NVS whatever is the state of
> its rfkill device, which could have been changed outside of the global
> scope. While that's exacly what we do right now, it is arguably not the
> best way to go about it (i.e. it is broken).
>
>
>> Comments?
>>
>
> Let's do it :-)
>
Cool :-). I'll see what I can do.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-07 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-28 15:31 [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-28 15:58 ` [PATCH v3] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 8:38 ` [PATCH v4] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 10:43 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 9:13 ` [PATCH] " Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 9:58 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 12:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-05-31 13:18 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 7:33 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 8:17 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 12:10 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:05 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 14:57 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 16:10 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 19:44 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 22:26 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02 7:38 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:01 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-02 8:18 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 4:03 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03 5:57 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:33 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 12:38 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 12:57 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:28 ` Alan Jenkins [this message]
2009-06-07 17:16 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-07 17:26 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:14 ` [RFC] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state() Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:32 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:10 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:13 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:15 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:19 ` [PATCH v2] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:24 ` [PATCH v3] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 12:27 ` [PATCH v4] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-10 1:55 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:46 ` [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 16:04 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 16:35 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 17:16 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:25 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10 2:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10 9:06 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-11 12:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 12:56 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:04 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-10 2:22 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:16 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:33 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02 8:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 4:10 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03 6:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:38 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:20 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 13:03 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-03 21:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04 4:24 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 13:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:36 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10 2:44 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10 7:19 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 12:28 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:37 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:38 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:45 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:50 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:33 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 14:29 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:37 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:50 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:53 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 17:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 19:22 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:43 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:49 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:53 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 13:51 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 13:54 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 18:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:03 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 21:19 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-01 7:18 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 7:27 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 7:40 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 8:08 ` [PATCH v5] " Johannes Berg
2009-06-02 8:33 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02 9:41 ` [PATCH v6] " Johannes Berg
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