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From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state()
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:15:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2CF2D5.80305@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1244459618.18863.10.camel@johannes.local>

Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 12:10 +0100, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>
>   
>>>> -		rfkill_set_sw_state(wwan_rfkill, hp_wmi_wwan_state());
>>>>  		err = rfkill_register(wwan_rfkill);
>>>>  		if (err)
>>>>  			goto register_wwan_err;
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Hmm. Anyone know anything about HP? That kinda looks persistent too.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Quite possibly.  I just don't know, and it's never been treated that way
>> before.  The old core, when I first read it, you were supposed to report
>> the initial state so that it knew whether it differed from the default
>> state.  So the core could "optimise away" the initialization if the
>> current state was the same.  Then rfkill_set_default() was added, but it
>> was only used in tp-acpi and then eeepc-laptop.
>>     
>
> Oh, good point. Then maybe that was just to avoid the core
> initialisation that I just always did for ease of use.
>
>   
>> The counter is the sony-laptop case.  That driver also hits ACPI to
>> query it's current state.  But apparently it doesn't always power up in
>> a useful state, because there's a specific git commit which forces the
>> radios to unblock at load time.
>>
>>
>> I think this patch should preserve the existing behaviour.  But the
>> rfkill rewrite as a whole is a good opportunity to re-check this issue. 
>> There's only a few maintainers to contact so I don't mind doing it -
>> unless you were going to check with them about the rewrite anyway?
>>     
>
> I wasn't planning on doing anything more than before -- where I had
> copied hopefully all maintainers on the rewrite patch.
>
>
>   
>>> Ah, this is the quirky backward compat code you're talking about. I
>>> guess we need it, although I don't particularly like it.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I don't like it either.  The patch as a whole only makes sense because
>> rfkill-input is going away, so the global states will become less
>> important.  When you use rfkill-input, you really want the individual
>> states to match the global ones, otherwise your user experience
>> suffers.  When you don't use rfkill-input, the "global" states will just
>> be load-time defaults (once suspend is fixed).
>>     
>
> Yeah. Want to fix suspend too? I would now, but I really need to get
> lunch first :)
>   

Sure, will do!


  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-08 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-28 15:31 [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-28 15:47   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-28 15:58   ` [PATCH v3] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29  8:38     ` [PATCH v4] " Johannes Berg
2009-05-29 10:43       ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31  9:13 ` [PATCH] " Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31  9:58   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 12:36     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-05-31 13:18     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:01     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01  7:33       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01  8:17         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 12:10           ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:05             ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:47             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 14:57               ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 16:10               ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 19:44                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 22:26                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02  7:38                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  8:01                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-02  8:18                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03  4:03                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03  5:57                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:33                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04  4:13                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 12:38                                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 12:57                                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:28                                       ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:16                                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-07 17:26                                         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:14                                           ` [RFC] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state() Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 10:32                                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:10                                               ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:13                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-08 11:15                                                   ` Alan Jenkins [this message]
2009-06-08 11:19                                               ` [PATCH v2] rfkill: remove set_global_sw_state Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:22                                                 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 11:24                                                   ` [PATCH v3] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-08 12:27                                                     ` [PATCH v4] " Alan Jenkins
2009-06-10  1:55                                                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:46                                     ` [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 16:04                                       ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 16:35                                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 17:16                                           ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:25                                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10  2:05                                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10  7:13                                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10  9:06                                               ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-11 12:01                                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 12:56                                                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-07 17:04                                       ` Dan Williams
2009-06-10  2:22                                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10  7:16                                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  8:33                         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-02  8:41                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03  4:10                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-03  6:01                               ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 21:38                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04  4:20                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-03 13:03                               ` Dan Williams
2009-06-03 21:40                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-04  4:24                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-07 13:54                                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-07 15:36                                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-10  2:44                                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-10  7:19                                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01 12:28           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:37             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:38             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:45               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:50                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 13:33                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 14:29                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:36                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:37                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 15:50                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 15:53                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 17:56                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 19:22                                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:43             ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01 12:49               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-01 12:53                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 13:51 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 13:54   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-31 18:22     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-31 19:03     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-05-31 21:19       ` Dan Williams
2009-06-01  7:18         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-01  7:27       ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-01  7:40         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-01 14:41         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  8:08 ` [PATCH v5] " Johannes Berg
2009-06-02  8:33   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  9:41 ` [PATCH v6] " Johannes Berg

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