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From: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
To: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Cc: Xose Vazquez Perez <xose.vazquez@gmail.com>,
	users@rt2x00.serialmonkey.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Firmware files for Ralink RT28x0
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:30:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DA22172.8030600@lwfinger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1302469406.5282.341.camel@localhost>

On 04/10/2011 04:03 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:25 +0200, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
>> Ben Hutchings wrote:
>>
>>> Ralink provides multiple drivers per bus type for RT28xx and later
>>> chips.  For PCI devices they split between RT2860 and RT309x; for USB
>>> devices they split between RT2870 and RT307x (I think - the chip model
>>> numbers don't seem to be stated consistently).
>>>
>>> In addition, the USB drivers have two separate images packed together
>>> and they can select different images based on the controller version:
>>>
>>> #ifdef RTMP_MAC_USB
>>> 		if ((Version != 0x2860)&&  (Version != 0x2872)&&  (Version != 0x3070))
>>> 		{	// Use Firmware V2.
>>> 			//printk("KH:Use New Version,part2\n");
>>> 			pFirmwareImage = (PUCHAR)&FirmwareImage[FIRMWAREIMAGEV1_LENGTH];
>>> 			FileLength = FIRMWAREIMAGEV2_LENGTH;
>>> 		}
>>> 		else
>>> 		{
>>> 			//printk("KH:Use New Version,part1\n");
>>> 			pFirmwareImage = FirmwareImage;
>>> 			FileLength = FIRMWAREIMAGEV1_LENGTH;
>>> 		}
>>> #endif // RTMP_MAC_USB //
>>>
>>> The firmware blobs in RT2870 version 2009-08-20 and RT3070 version
>>> 2009-05-25 are all marked as version 17 (or 0.17), but *they all have
>>> different contents*.
>>>
>>> I attempted to maintain the same version selection logic when converting
>>> the staging drivers to use the firmware loader, since I assumed there
>>> was a good reason for it.
>>>
>>
>> As you can see in the ralink web[1] RT28XX/RT30XX USB devices (RT2870/RT2770/RT3572/RT3070)
>> need _only_ the rt2870.bin fw-file.
>>
>> And RT28XX/RT30XX PCI/mPCI/PCIe/CardBus devices
>> (RT2760/RT2790/RT2860/RT2890/RT3060/RT3062/RT3562/RT2860/RT2760/RT2890/RT2790/RT3090)
>> need _only_ the rt2860.bin fw-file.
>
> These files aren't used by the Ralink drivers.  So why should you
> believe the labels on them?
>
>>> linux-firmware is supposed to have all firmware files referenced by any
>>> version of Linux
>>
>> That's a good joke!
>> linux-firmware is *unmaintained* , a lot of firmwares are missing.
>
> linux-firmware is not *actively* maintained; it requires people to send
> submissions (repeatedly...).
>
>> Even the intel ones(microcode.dat, ipw2{1,2}*), zd1211, etc...
>
> I think there may be a problem with distribution of Intel Pro Wireless
> firmware because Intel requires users to accept a EULA.
>
>> Others are very old, really it's a mess.
>> Fedora puts _forty_ patches on top of linux-firmware.
>
> So help to make it better.

Agreed.

My experiences with linux-firmware are that they are justifiably particular 
about the license. My first attempt was with in-line firmware for the staging 
driver r8712u that had been distributed in a header file under GPL V2. That 
source compiled into a binary was not acceptible. After Realtek sent me their 
license that clearly gave the right to redistribute their firmware, my 
contribution was immediately accepted. I have since add 4 more Realtek firmware 
files under the same license. All were accepted without delay.

Larry

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-10 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-10 19:25 Firmware files for Ralink RT28x0 Xose Vazquez Perez
2011-04-10 21:03 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-04-10 21:30   ` Larry Finger [this message]
2011-04-10 21:46   ` Xose Vazquez Perez
2011-04-10 22:37     ` Larry Finger
2011-04-10 22:56       ` Xose Vazquez Perez
2011-04-11  3:01         ` Larry Finger
2011-04-11  3:06         ` Firmware for rt2800pci and rt2800usb Larry Finger
2011-04-11  5:48           ` Steev Klimaszewski
2011-04-11  9:12           ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2011-04-11 13:01             ` Larry Finger
2011-04-11 13:32               ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2011-04-11 15:05               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2011-04-11 11:14           ` Juan Carlos Garza
2011-04-11 11:23             ` Ben Hutchings
2011-04-11 12:21               ` Juan Carlos Garza
2011-04-11 13:19               ` Larry Finger
2011-04-11 14:56           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-10 17:29 Firmware files for Ralink RT28x0 Xose Vazquez Perez
2011-04-10 17:35 ` Ivo Van Doorn
2011-04-10 18:12   ` Xose Vazquez Perez
2011-04-10 18:26   ` Larry Finger
2011-04-10 17:02 Xose Vazquez Perez
2011-04-10 15:56 Ben Hutchings
2011-04-10 16:18 ` Larry Finger
2011-04-10 16:35 ` Ivo Van Doorn
2011-04-10 17:49   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-04-10 18:06     ` Ivo Van Doorn
2011-04-10 19:04       ` Ben Hutchings

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