From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@frijolero.org>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Javier Cardona <javier@cozybit.com>,
Alexander Simon <an.alexsimon@googlemail.com>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] mac80211: Add HT operation modes for IBSS
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:54:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E791992.2090406@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6UYY5sbpmkTHPx1LVFh6SC0QebqhKcpYCawZryvttOS=A@mail.gmail.com>
On 2011-09-21 12:37 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Felix Fietkau<nbd@openwrt.org> wrote:
>> On 2011-09-20 11:26 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Felix Fietkau<nbd@openwrt.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If we want to properly enforce Annex J channel pairs, this needs to
>>>> be moved to cfg80211.
>>>
>>> This does not still address the issue of one peer finding out it
>>> cannot deal with an HT40 pair and correcting the topology and
>>> propagating this out. Not yet sure if for 802.11ac we'll need
>>> something similar but its worth considering.
>>
>> Don't think of it as a topology. Each node makes its own decisions about
>> HT40+/HT40-/HT20.
>
> OK lets go with an example.
>
> Node A: HT40+
> Primary: 5785 (157)
> Extension: 5805 (161)
>
> Node B: HT20 as it finds a legacy AP with on 5805.
> Channel: 5785 (157)
>
> Node C: HT40-
> Primary: 5785 (157)
> Extension: 5765 (153)
>
> So we want to support this setup?
>
> What if the network changes and we cannot use the original HT40 pair
> now but we can later? This applies even to today's hostapd AP setup
> and more rhetorical.
Whenever a node is not alone in an IBSS, it must keep the primary
channel the same to be able to talk to its neighbors. If it cannot use
its HT40 opmode because of overlap checks then it should just gracefully
fall back to HT20. Refusal to join or randomly changing the primary
channel would create big problems for bigger deployments, IBSS merging
should always be considered potentially unreliable.
Most big ad-hoc mesh deployments use fixed channel and fixed cell-id for
that reason.
- Felix
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-20 22:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-17 22:14 [PATCH v3 1/3] nl80211: Parse channel type attribute in an ibss join request Alexander Simon
2011-09-17 22:14 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] mac80211: Add HT helper functions Alexander Simon
2011-09-19 12:55 ` Johannes Berg
2011-09-19 13:01 ` Alexander Simon
2011-09-17 22:14 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] mac80211: Add HT operation modes for IBSS Alexander Simon
2011-09-17 22:54 ` Alexander Simon
2011-09-19 13:04 ` Johannes Berg
2011-09-19 15:46 ` Alexander Simon
2011-09-20 12:21 ` Johannes Berg
2011-09-20 18:12 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 18:21 ` Felix Fietkau
2011-09-20 18:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 18:46 ` Felix Fietkau
2011-09-20 19:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 19:31 ` Felix Fietkau
2011-09-20 20:18 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 21:04 ` Felix Fietkau
2011-09-20 21:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 21:52 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 22:09 ` Felix Fietkau
2011-09-20 22:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 21:52 ` Felix Fietkau
2011-09-20 22:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 22:54 ` Felix Fietkau [this message]
2011-09-20 23:04 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-09-20 18:55 ` Javier Cardona
2011-09-19 12:52 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] nl80211: Parse channel type attribute in an ibss join request Johannes Berg
2011-09-19 13:18 ` Alexander Simon
2011-09-19 13:32 ` Johannes Berg
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