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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: Update regulations for Ukraine
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On 12/06/2012 10:04 AM, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:27:55PM +0100, Mykyta Iziumtsev wrote:
>> Add 5GHz band and mark 2.4GHz and 5GHz as NO-OUTDOOR according to
>> "Рішення про затвердження Переліку радіоелектронних засобів
>> та випромінювальних пристроїв, для експлуатації яких не потрібні
>> дозволи на експлуатацію" from 27 May 2010.
>>
>> Ref:
>> * #914 / 06 Sep 2007: http://www.ucrf.gov.ua/uk/doc/nkrz/1196068874
>> * #1174 / 23 Oct 2008: http://www.nkrz.gov.ua/uk/activities/ruling/1225269361
>> (appendix 8)
> 
> Since regulatory maintainer does not understand Ukrainian,
> there is little chance to get this patch applied.
> 
> IMHO this can be solved by:
> 
> * having official English translation of those document on gov.ua site

This is always a problem and unlikely to be solved.

> * provide patch by wlan chip vendor, confirmed by legal deparament of
>   the vendor

Legal department is not typically (directly) involved in this, but we
(Broadcom) have a regulatory department. However, there are OEMs
involved as well and some do their own FCC/regulatory certification. The
reason why I suggested adding references in the database is that I
wanted to get our regulatory department involved to validate at least
the correctness of the reference itself. Ideally, I would want them to
look at the rules itself.

> * provide patch by some known Ukrainian kernel developer, someone
>   who is know by regulatory maintainer and can be trust

I think John relies on community members watching the mailing list that
are affiliated with the chip vendors. Especially, when the url takes him
to some ukranian document :-)

> Stanislaw
> 

Gr. AvS