From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: Sujith Manoharan <sujith@msujith.org>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@qca.qualcomm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] ath9k: remove ath9k_rate_control
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:04:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <511505E1.9080009@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20756.65038.7020.514691@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
On 2013-02-08 2:30 PM, Sujith Manoharan wrote:
> Felix Fietkau wrote:
>> In many tests throughput with ath9k_rate_control has been shown to be
>> worse than with minstrel_ht (the mac8021 default RC).
>>
>> This module also has some other problems, like starting to use the
>> highest possible rate early in the connection, causing problems with
>> reliability of connection/authentication attempts.
>>
>> It also has a much more limited search space, ignoring many potentially
>> useful rates, caused by the design decision to operate on a sorted rate
>> set with the assumption that higher rates are always more unreliable
>> than lower rates. In some scenarios this assumption is not true, and
>> this can cause it to fall back to a really bad rate.
>>
>> minstrel_ht has been tested extensively in AP and client mode by lots of
>> users (mostly in the OpenWrt project, where it has been the default for
>> years).
>>
>> The only advantage that ath9k_rate_control previously had over minstrel_ht
>> was the support for using CCK rates as fall back in case MCS rates got
>> too bad, but this has now also been taken care of.
>
> Various rates are marked as invalid in the ath9k rate control module. I don't
> know all the reasons, but the recommendation to disable certain rates came from
> the internal algorithms team. How will this be handled ?
I'm pretty sure it's because the algorithm isn't designed to handle more
rates. It's a step-up/step-down type algorithm, and those typically only
work with a sorted rateset, preferably duplicate free.
Minstrel_ht selects rates in a different way that doesn't have the same
limitations, so it can use the full rateset.
- Felix
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-08 14:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-08 13:13 [RFC] ath9k: remove ath9k_rate_control Felix Fietkau
2013-02-08 13:30 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-02-08 14:04 ` Felix Fietkau [this message]
2013-02-08 14:06 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-02-08 14:08 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-02-08 14:16 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-02-08 16:38 ` Paul Stewart
2013-02-08 16:53 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-02-27 19:20 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2013-02-28 2:21 ` Adrian Chadd
2013-02-28 3:24 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-02-28 3:54 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-02-28 4:32 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-02-28 5:08 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-03-01 14:31 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-03-01 15:35 ` Ben Greear
2013-03-01 21:23 ` Adrian Chadd
2013-03-01 21:28 ` Adrian Chadd
2013-03-02 2:19 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-03-02 5:40 ` Adrian Chadd
2013-03-02 8:26 ` Georgiewskiy Yuriy
2013-03-02 20:23 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-03-03 3:58 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-02-28 11:47 ` Bob Copeland
2013-02-28 13:09 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-02-28 18:53 ` Adrian Chadd
2013-02-28 19:07 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-03-01 1:23 ` Sujith Manoharan
2013-03-01 10:09 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-03-01 3:53 ` Adrian Chadd
2013-03-01 10:14 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-03-01 10:22 ` Adrian Chadd
2013-03-01 10:29 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-03-01 11:18 ` Mohammed Shafi
2013-03-01 11:31 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-03-01 12:32 ` Mohammed Shafi
2013-03-01 13:05 ` Felix Fietkau
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